serox wrote:cool cheers.
Cannot think of any real advantages to doing it this way tho right now.
Just another way of working that can have interesting results, basically using vocal slices as percussion. When done with MIDI of existing percussion, it will automatically match up, then you just pitch and shift stuff around to taste.
A lot of the original juke was done with MPCs by banging out samples on the pads, then using the MPC's unique groove and quantize functions. Ghettotech, so yeah don't overcomplicate it.
or you could just lay down the vox to hit where the percs/drums are already and get the same results right?
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:31 am
by wormcode
Yeah just takes longer, especially with complex percussion, but whatever works. Could also do it via sidechaining or volume automation as well, so the kicks or hats trigger a vocal when it hits. Many ways to go about it.
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:41 am
by serox
wormcode wrote:Yeah just takes longer, especially with complex percussion, but whatever works. Could also do it via sidechaining or volume automation as well, so the kicks or hats trigger a vocal when it hits. Many ways to go about it.
cool idea!
Like you said, just other ways to do the same thing imo.
Really feeling this kind of vibe anyway. Not about the mid range techno noise most people are into right now!
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:47 am
by Naan_Bread
Have you seen the Addison Groove RBMA lecture where he does the live 808 jam?
Not exactly the same thing, but really inspires me to build up a decent sample set and then just jam some tunes on the pads.
Such a tune. Apparently only coming out next year after his album is released though.
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:49 am
by serox
sick track the footcrab one
really inspiring.
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:55 am
by wormcode
Naan Bread wrote:Have you seen the Addison Groove RBMA lecture where he does the live 808 jam?
Not exactly the same thing, but really inspires me to build up a decent sample set and then just jam some tunes on the pads.
Nah but it's on my to-watch list along with like 20 others lol.
Was it just about his Addison stuff or did the alter ego Headhunter also speak? He experimented with some dub techno, echochord inspired stuff for a while as Headhunter, always wanted to hear more of his take on that.
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:01 pm
by Naan_Bread
wormcode wrote:
Naan Bread wrote:Have you seen the Addison Groove RBMA lecture where he does the live 808 jam?
Not exactly the same thing, but really inspires me to build up a decent sample set and then just jam some tunes on the pads.
Nah but it's on my to-watch list along with like 20 others lol.
Was it just about his Addison stuff or did the alter ego Headhunter also speak? He experimented with some dub techno, echochord inspired stuff for a while as Headhunter, always wanted to hear more of his take on that.
He chats about Headhunter.
It's about a ratio of 3:1 AG to Headhunter
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:09 pm
by hutyluty
i always found it impossible to make a vocal loop thing so that it doesnt just get really really annoying
most juke tracks are only about 1 minute long i think but AG manafes a proper length tune by mixing up every so often- in footcrab there's "footcrab", "insane" and "yaa hommy" or whatever that one is
as for mixing, yeah sidechaining, i also always find myself doing the 1-7-11 placement of vocals too
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:09 pm
by skimpi
serox wrote:
wormcode wrote:Yeah just takes longer, especially with complex percussion, but whatever works. Could also do it via sidechaining or volume automation as well, so the kicks or hats trigger a vocal when it hits. Many ways to go about it.
cool idea!
Like you said, just other ways to do the same thing imo.
Really feeling this kind of vibe anyway. Not about the mid range techno noise most people are into right now!
what? dubstep?
i dont get how you can have problems with this, you just plonk in an acapella and the add reverb and maybe some compression and EQ if needed. all the juke guy probably do is as someone else has said just bang in samples on the MPC.
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:58 pm
by accordionfan
xbubbax wrote:
xbubbax wrote:juke = horrible
i would rather listen to a 33 record @ 45rpm and have the record skip over the corus........oh wait isnt that juke?
and the funniest shit about it, is the lil detroit black kidz dancing like they just got hit by lightning.....and who ever wins gets shot....ppfff
kill yourself
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:59 pm
by accordionfan
you dont need to have vocal samples repeating allt he time. the most important parts the constant unrelenting bass imo
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:03 pm
by Shekul
I recently tried to make a juke track for fun. I saw DJ Rashad and Spinn at the Croft in Bristol last month, pretty cool seeing them live how they work together and a lot of the vocal samples are actually Spinn just saying stuff and repeating it.
and if you actually like watching people dance to juke or just hearing new tracks, check out this channel. They add daily new videos. (starts at 00:54)
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:46 am
by Neversca
I agree, try to keep the vocal edits simple. You could sidechain your vocals so they come through the mix more?
Re: Mixing vocals in 808/ghetto inspired tracks
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:59 pm
by um4mi
hope you guys dont mind if i post this 808 tune i made in here, figured its relevant
Hey that sound's awesome! ... You wouldn't happen to be the same Umami who made amb001c would you? If so, I'd just like to say how much I really liked that track. I actually spent last weekend recreating amb001c in Ableton with a buddy of mine. You have a very unique style, and I really dig it. Keep up the good work.
