Mark Duggan was not armed when shot by police

Riddles · Post by **Riddles** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:15 pm

murky21 wrote:beef

innit.

Jury said he didnt have a gun when shot, but it was a lawful killing.

magma · Post by **magma** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:26 pm

Riddles wrote:
murky21 wrote:beef
innit.

Jury said he didnt have a gun when shot, but it was a lawful killing.

Biggest WTF of the day.

They also said it was more likely than not that Mr Duggan had thrown a gun from a taxi just before he was killed.

"MORE LIKELY THAN NOT"

Whatever happened to Reasonable fucking Doubt? When did we become a nation where ANYONE is allowed to shoot first and ask questions later? This isn't the Wild West, it's Great Britain.

wub · Post by **wub** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:27 pm

Yay, more riots.

EDIT - all aboard the Twitter moral express, toot toot;

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Duggan&src=hash

Riddles · Post by **Riddles** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:29 pm

magma wrote:
Riddles wrote:
murky21 wrote:beef
innit.

Jury said he didnt have a gun when shot, but it was a lawful killing.
Biggest WTF of the day.

They also said it was more likely than not that Mr Duggan had thrown a gun from a taxi just before he was killed.
"MORE LIKELY THAN NOT"

Whatever happened to Reasonable fucking Doubt? When did we become a nation where ANYONE is allowed to shoot first and ask questions later? This isn't the Wild West, it's Great Britain.

The gun was also wrapped inside a sock when it was found....

magma · Post by **magma** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:38 pm

See you all in the Nike aisle of JD Sports.

Pedro Sánchez · Post by **Pedro Sánchez** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:40 pm

magma wrote:Whatever happened to Reasonable fucking Doubt?

I don't think that has existed for a long time in this country but the MET with the word from BoJo are ordering some new water cannons for the summer so that should be fun.

Laszlo · Post by **Laszlo** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:43 pm

Pedro Sánchez wrote:
magma wrote:Whatever happened to Reasonable fucking Doubt?
I don't think that has existed for a long time in this country but the MET with the word from BoJo are ordering some new water cannons for the summer so that should be fun.

Well maybe if he'd ordered them sooner they would've been able to put out that furniture shop in Croydon!

wub · Post by **wub** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:51 pm

DJ Flight ‏@DJFlight 2m

what a poisonous system & country we live in - more fool me for hoping the jury would see sense & give an unlawful killing verdict

DJ Flight ‏@DJFlight 2m

stnuc

murky21 · Post by **murky21** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:58 pm

really bad individual case unfortunately

the whole country is fucked, lets all move to....oh...wait

wub · Post by **wub** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:59 pm

murky21 wrote:the whole country is fucked, lets all move to....oh...wait

kaili · Post by **kaili** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:29 pm

this shit happens in america all the time too doesnt it
pretty dumb, cops are usually assholes, even the ones here are nobs

m8son666 · Post by **m8son666** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:38 pm

I don't know the ins and outs of this case (as i'm sure 90% of the people who are commenting on it don't) and of course it seems ridiculous but everyone is making out like the police are some murderous gang who go around shooting black men all the time. Obviously any life taken is terrible but it's not exactly a common occurence.

wilson · Post by **wilson** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:44 pm

Edit: Don't know enough to form a solid opinion. Think the officers' testimonies need to be looked at though.

DJoe · Post by **DJoe** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:46 pm

Including Mark Duggan, nearly 1,500 people have died after contact with the police since 1990. No police officer has been convicted.
827 people have died during or following police contact since 2004.

not that uncommon at all.

DJoe · Post by **DJoe** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:47 pm

Its more just further reasoning for a deep mistrust for the met, rather than they are going around killing ppl

Laszlo · Post by **Laszlo** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:49 pm

^^You've been blowing up my Twitter feed with this stuff.. Do you have a source for that 1500 figure, please?

DJoe · Post by **DJoe** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:56 pm

http://www.inquest.org.uk/statistics/de ... ce-custody
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cr ... 99484.html

m8son666 · Post by **m8son666** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:01 pm

since 2008 1,889 people have been killed by buses, everyone still trusts them
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24923609

DJoe · Post by **DJoe** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:04 pm

yeah but buses don't lie to make themselves look better. what a shit arbitrary comparison

m8son666 · Post by **m8son666** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:07 pm

also that 1,500 figure is pretty misleading it includes deaths in pursuit which are unlikely to be the polices fault also deaths while in custody which could be anything from suicide to overdose to random heart failure, only a small proportion is from shootings.

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