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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:28 pm
by bze
Toxin wrote:just do what you feel is right, theres know right or wrong..... 138/140/142 who gives a shitas long it sounds good........ these people who are tellin you that its not dubstep need to fix up coz theres no set rules in dubsteo like there is in dnb and thats the way it shuld be....... nothing there to limit creativity................. :wink:
rules to dnb? no rules to dubstep? wtf are you talking about?

i think there's much of different rules and no-rules in music making. you're quite right about the creativity, but i think it's quite stupid to try express yourself with no proper techniques in production or general know-how-stuff.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:19 pm
by rekall
oi mate you didn't say this loudly enough:
dubweiser wrote:do whatever you want, don't limit your music because people say it's not dubstep.
there that's better now innit.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:36 pm
by Steve AC23
bze wrote:
Toxin wrote:just do what you feel is right, theres know right or wrong..... 138/140/142 who gives a shitas long it sounds good........ these people who are tellin you that its not dubstep need to fix up coz theres no set rules in dubsteo like there is in dnb and thats the way it shuld be....... nothing there to limit creativity................. :wink:
rules to dnb? no rules to dubstep? wtf are you talking about?

i think there's much of different rules and no-rules in music making. you're quite right about the creativity, but i think it's quite stupid to try express yourself with no proper techniques in production or general know-how-stuff.
what you on about. you can have no rules but still have techniques.

If you come at dubstep with a totaly open mind and just lay beats down coz if feels good not coz its such n such a bpm and the beats are this far apart n shit.

look, if the dnb scene didnt move into this whole rules or set procedure...it wouldnt be as fuckin boring as is it today.

intro -> buildups -> breakdown -> drumroll -> BANG BANG BANG -> change at 32 bars ->breakdown -> drumroll -> *silence* -> BANG BANG BANG.

bigups to people like breakage, bizzy b, equinox, chris inp, senses, andyskopes, fracture n neptune, alpha omega, seba, paradox, macc, 0=0, dissedent, fanu, too many names to mention

No rules, no boundaries.

edit heads inside!
do whatever you want, don't limit your music because people say it's not dubstep.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:41 pm
by rekall
ac23 wrote:look, if the dnb scene didnt move into this whole rules or set procedure...it wouldnt be as fuckin boring as is it today.

intro -> buildups -> breakdown -> drumroll -> BANG BANG BANG -> change at 32 bars ->breakdown -> drumroll -> *silence* -> BANG BANG BANG.
i describe this exact thing as: the overproduced, pastuerized-out-of-sustenance,
mindless and endless pursuit of... PAVLONIAN RESPONSE.

i have largely stopped paying attention to larger-name drum + bass releases,
because for the longest time, like pavlov's dog, i would hear the bell but be presented with no food.
sitting there salivating waiting for something that wasn't coming any time soon.

and then there was dubstep.

BOOM.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:15 pm
by 8bitwonder
i really dont follow any rules of dubstep at all apart from tempo

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:20 pm
by rekall
8bitwonder wrote:i really dont follow any rules of dubstep at all apart from tempo
indeed. ain't no use if it can't be mixed into a set : can only do so much with +/- 8%.

unless your name is something like Eight Frozen Modules.
then you can do pretty much whatever the bloody hell you want.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:42 pm
by 8bitwonder
rekall wrote:
8bitwonder wrote:i really dont follow any rules of dubstep at all apart from tempo
indeed. ain't no use if it can't be mixed into a set : can only do so much with +/- 8%.

unless your name is something like Eight Frozen Modules.
then you can do pretty much whatever the bloody hell you want.
ha ha ha-

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:50 pm
by municiple
Free up the dubstep, death to formulas. Seriously, make your own definitions.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:02 pm
by 8bitwonder
municiple wrote:Free up the dubstep, death to formulas. Seriously, make your own definitions.
here here old bwoy

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:08 pm
by rekall
if it slow and jus a bi't wobblee n ye cannut quite figger out the tempo usin bog standard headbop but ye find yeself in a bit of a swagger and de reverb havin ya lost in de ocean... THEN IT'S DUBSTEP.

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:14 am
by acetone
rekall just summed up my thoughts on dubstep perfectly.

As for the tempo, I posted a 105 BPM track ( http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2228 ) and no one thought it was too slow, so I'd say there's good room for experimenting. Of course, if you're producing for the dancefloor it makes good sense to keep it within ±8 % of everything else…

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:31 am
by rekall
either that, or have a long-enough percussionless intro + outro (pads pads ambience pads) and keep the overall length shorter so it can be dropped into a set all on its lonesome but without causing a major drop in pace.

and i repeat - unless your name is Eight Frozen Modules,
then none of these rules apply to you.

http://planet-mu.com/discog/ziq109/ziq1 ... dim_hi.mp3

'a low bite riddim' is pure edit-joy.

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:02 am
by 8bitwonder
rekall wrote:if it slow and jus a bi't wobblee n ye cannut quite figger out the tempo usin bog standard headbop but ye find yeself in a bit of a swagger and de reverb havin ya lost in de ocean... THEN IT'S DUBSTEP.
in the film this quote..cheers mr.r

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:29 pm
by rekall
so glad to have used 'bog standard' in such a winning context :-D

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-bog1.htm

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:01 pm
by 8bitwonder
rekall wrote:so glad to have used 'bog standard' in such a winning context :-D

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-bog1.htm
im from yorkshire i cant comment on use of language or grammer

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:04 pm
by rekall
:lol: propa!

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:20 pm
by 8bitwonder
rekall wrote::lol: propa!
aye lad,tha's a mucky bline luvva if tha nowz wot am blurting

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:35 pm
by rekall
oddly enough i know perfectly well what you just said.

maybe in a past life i was a junglist.

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:52 pm
by 8bitwonder
rekall wrote:oddly enough i know perfectly well what you just said.

maybe in a past life i was a junglist.
or yorkshire,i hate drum n bass anyway

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:08 am
by bruno belluomini
dubweiser wrote:do whatever you want, don't limit your music because people say it's not dubstep. :wink:
plus, there's a lot of snares of different famous dubstep tunes that don't match when mixed together. :P
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