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Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:47 pm
by wub
howzer wrote:i used to play percussion in a massive orchestra

Would you have had to use a click track if you'd played strings?

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:50 pm
by howzer
wub wrote:
howzer wrote:i used to play percussion in a massive orchestra

Would you have had to use a click track if you'd played strings?
i have come across occasions where the conductor has had to use a click track in his ear while conducting... and i used to play strings as a child, you follow the conductor // the percussion section...

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:52 pm
by wub
howzer wrote:i used to play strings as a child, you follow the conductor // the percussion section...
But not a dedicated click track by itself...unless the perc section is playing a constant beat the whole time?

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:54 pm
by Killamike49
I don't see why a click track would help though. It seems as though it would get off beat pretty easily if there was any kind of drift or anything. Maybe if you started it like 4 bars before you started the part you want to bring in it would stay but.... yeah that just seems like it's introducing unnecessary problems. I see what you're trying to do, but a click track is probably not the best way to achieve this.

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:55 pm
by howzer
wub wrote:
howzer wrote:i used to play strings as a child, you follow the conductor // the percussion section...
But not a dedicated click track by itself...unless the perc section is playing a constant beat the whole time?
its a completely different context... if you are playing along to something that has a very rigid time tempo (like EDM) where everything is spot on time... there is little room for error... if you are playing amongst a group of people without a click track... tempo and timing can be compensated easily... not everyone goes EXACTLY on time. so if you are counting 1, 2, 3, 4 in EDM... you can be sure its going to be 1,2,3,4 with the exact same time between each note. that is not the case in an orchestra.

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:57 pm
by wub
wub wrote:You need to practice more.

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:57 pm
by howzer
Killamike49 wrote:I don't see why a click track would help though. It seems as though it would get off beat pretty easily if there was any kind of drift or anything. Maybe if you started it like 4 bars before you started the part you want to bring in it would stay but.... yeah that just seems like it's introducing unnecessary problems. I see what you're trying to do, but a click track is probably not the best way to achieve this.

and yeah... that was my conclusion after testing it the other day. i was just throwing the idea out there for discussion... Im not an advocate for it

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:58 pm
by wub
Oh I see.


In that case I think DJing with a click track is the equivalent of having training wheels when you're mixing.

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:00 pm
by howzer
wub wrote:
wub wrote:You need to practice more.
practice DJing? I'll never stop. :w:

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:02 pm
by howzer
wub wrote:Oh I see.


In that case I think DJing with a click track is the equivalent of having training wheels when you're mixing.
yep, again... i never said it was a great thing to do... i merely stated id tried it out and wanted others thoughts on the idea...

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:12 pm
by Reamz
DUBSTEP MUST BE 140 ARRRGGGHHH

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:18 pm
by Reamz
howzer wrote:practice DJing? I'll never stop. :w:
You play tetris.... please do!

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:22 pm
by howzer
Reamz wrote:
howzer wrote:practice DJing? I'll never stop. :w:
You play tetris.... please do!
you must be a pac man fan...

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:24 pm
by Reamz
howzer wrote:
Reamz wrote:
howzer wrote:practice DJing? I'll never stop. :w:
You play tetris.... please do!
you must be a pac man fan...
Nah Return 2 Space

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:51 pm
by syrup

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:37 pm
by particle-jim
Reamz wrote:
howzer wrote:
Reamz wrote:
howzer wrote:practice DJing? I'll never stop. :w:
You play tetris.... please do!
you must be a pac man fan...
Nah Return 2 Space
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:44 pm
by Undrig
Sounds about as useful as djing while wearing a neon shirt.

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:53 pm
by wub
Undrig wrote:Sounds about as useful as djing while wearing a neon shirt.
I've done that before, highly recommend it.

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:15 pm
by ransom
This would be like a DJ using a drum machine during their set, just not audible to the crowd. One of the Computer Music specials on house, I think Derrick Carter talks about bringing a Roland 909 with him to gigs in the early/mid 1980's and running it through the his entire set.

Re: DJing with a click track.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:22 pm
by wub
ransom wrote:This would be like a DJ using a drum machine during their set, just not audible to the crowd. One of the Computer Music specials on house, I think Derrick Carter talks about bringing a Roland 909 with him to gigs in the early/mid 1980's and running it through the his entire set.

That's hotmixing though, that's something different - plus the fact that back then Carter was playing for hours at a time (same with Frankie Knuckles/Ron Hardy etc), so taking a drum machine down to stretch out the night was standard.