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Maddie????

YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS.



I played the whole EP in a club a month ago and it sounds brilliant on a system.

you dont get it.

it's ok.

there's plenty of boring, over compressed music out there for you.

its the famous 'you wont understand it unless its on a system' line once again. No ones complaining about that, theyre saying it sounds bad on a home set up.

seckle wrote:

jon ad wrote:
Jon AD ‎@chris: that isn't neccesarily a good thing. A price like that, for a 12" which does not cost more than any other 12" production wise tends to make people become disenfranchised with your art. People can smell a cash grab.

If banksy printed up, 100 ltd edition t-shirts, and charged £150 for each one, someone out there would buy it. trust. Banksy's still got a large collectors audience, that pays top dollar for all his output. the point being that Burial & Hyperdub are forcing no one to buy their music, but its bought, and bought worldwide. the "cash grab" you speak about would be relevant if they sold less and less Burial, but thats just not what's happening. its the reverse.

If Banksy was charging £150 for a tshirt, I'd call it a cash grab. There's no functional reason why it should cost that much unless it has gold encrusted in it or something. In the case of Burial, however, I have noticed that the vinyl version of Kindred is more expensive than every other recent Hyperdub vinyl release for no apparent reason, so Jon does have a point there (though I don't know where he got the idea that it was $15 from).

180g press?

Shum wrote:180g press?

If it is, and the rest of Hyperdubs recent 12" EPs aren't then fair enough.

prisoner wrote:YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS.



I played the whole EP in a club a month ago and it sounds brilliant on a system.

you dont get it.

it's ok.

there's plenty of boring, over compressed music out there for you.

What a twat.

DID I SAY IT SOUDED SHIT ON A FUCKIN SYSTEM?

I could give a fuck "if you dropped the whole EP in a club", i wasnt talking about listening to it in a club, the sound quality to me didnt sound as good as other vinyls when i was listening to it at home.

prisoner wrote:there's plenty of boring, over compressed music out there for you.

What?

I said there was nothing wrong with any of my other Burial vinyls, is "Ghost Hardware" and "Street Halo" over compressed compared to "Kindred"? Is "Kindred" the music should sound? Twat.

Oh but wait, he dropped the whole EP in a club! He must be right!

People get so fuckin offended on here when anything negative is said about their favourite artists. Grow up.

JBoy wrote:its the famous 'you wont understand it unless its on a system' line once again. No ones complaining about that, theyre saying it sounds bad on a home set up.

Exactly, some one got it.

Durag wrote:

prisoner wrote:YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS.



I played the whole EP in a club a month ago and it sounds brilliant on a system.

you dont get it.

it's ok.

there's plenty of boring, over compressed music out there for you.

What a twat.

DID I SAY IT SOUDED SHIT ON A FUCKIN SYSTEM?

I could give a fuck "if you dropped the whole EP in a club", i wasnt talking about listening to it in a club, the sound quality to me didnt sound as good as other vinyls when i was listening to it at home.

prisoner wrote:there's plenty of boring, over compressed music out there for you.

What?

I said there was nothing wrong with any of my other Burial vinyls, is "Ghost Hardware" and "Street Halo" over compressed compared to "Kindred"? Is "Kindred" the music should sound? Twat.

Oh but wait, he dropped the whole EP in a club! He must be right!

People get so fuckin offended on here when anything negative is said about their favourite artists. Grow up.

JBoy wrote:its the famous 'you wont understand it unless its on a system' line once again. No ones complaining about that, theyre saying it sounds bad on a home set up.

Exactly, some one got it.

haha

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im pretty sure with how his music is made and the people around him (kode9 etc) that the way the music sounds when released is the way its supposed to sound when its released.

nah tbh im really disappointed with my copy. bought the WAVs and they sound great, im not stupid i know there's meant to be crackles and distortion and whatever but the actual sound quality on the vinyl is poor. on the digital version all of the different sounds are clear and crisp and you can pick out the individual parts but the vinyl sounds like a bit of a mess. firstly it's much quieter than every other record i have and it's very muffled, fiddling about with the levels and whatever makes it sound better but after hearing the digital i was hoping it would sound better than that, it's much worse. really disappointed with it, and even as a real vinyl person that always defends the format, this pressing is poor

Again, it's quieter and "muffled" because it's cut at 33rpm and is a 30 minute EP cut onto a single 12". The longer the tracks, the less overall volume you can cut them at. You can increase volume at the cost of overall resolution and fidelity by cutting at 33rpm, but 15 mins/side is still pushing it to the limit, especially for dancefloor-friendly music. It's more of a vinyl limitation than a pressing issue.

Also, most club sound systems are mono and overly biased to the low-end. A few exceptions aside, I don't know anyone who goes to clubs to listen to music from an audiophile-style perspective.

scattybeanhead wrote:nah tbh im really disappointed with my copy. bought the WAVs and they sound great, im not stupid i know there's meant to be crackles and distortion and whatever but the actual sound quality on the vinyl is poor. on the digital version all of the different sounds are clear and crisp and you can pick out the individual parts but the vinyl sounds like a bit of a mess. firstly it's much quieter than every other record i have and it's very muffled, fiddling about with the levels and whatever makes it sound better but after hearing the digital i was hoping it would sound better than that, it's much worse. really disappointed with it, and even as a real vinyl person that always defends the format, this pressing is poor

Yeah that's the same way I feel, but I was worried initially that there was something wrong with my vinyl, but now that I know it sounds like that for everyone I can forget about it and enjoy the music.

dr h wrote:Again, it's quieter and "muffled" because it's cut at 33rpm and is a 30 minute EP cut onto a single 12". The longer the tracks, the less overall volume you can cut them at. You can increase volume at the cost of overall resolution and fidelity by cutting at 33rpm, but 15 mins/side is still pushing it to the limit, especially for dancefloor-friendly music. It's more of a vinyl limitation than a pressing issue.

Also, most club sound systems are mono and overly biased to the low-end. A few exceptions aside, I don't know anyone who goes to clubs to listen to music from an audiophile-style perspective.

Cheers for that, that explains it

I honestly haven't found any problems on my vinyl copy.
But I can relate to the OP:

If you think this is bad, what about the Paradise Circus/Four Walls twelve? That one was like 30$ and that record sounds like absolute gash. Seriously, you're almost better off listening to the radio rip of paradise circus with mary ann hobbs talking over it on youtube.
That was a super expensive pressing gone completely wrong. I was genuinely pissed about that. This record sounds the same as my flac version, albeit a little quieter. But for home listening, tht doesn't bother me.

Also, this is not 180 gram pressing.

Yea loner and ashtray wasp both just sit there on the vinyl, no depth, very flat sounding... tunes played through the station's monitors during broadcast is a real leveler...totally exposes poorly mastered music....both these have such little frequency range and low levels....ashtray wasp as long as it is and the flat range just cant hold someones interest...i dont think its only because there is too much music for one side of vinyl because there are a gazillion records that play at 33 stuffed with music and sound amazing...