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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by Maccaveli » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:24 am

It occurred to me recently that In McDonald's might just be my favourite Burial track

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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by leeany » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:22 pm

something I noticed is that most of the Burial fans I know (including myself) didn't really like his music when they first heard it, it took me some time to get into it and now he's my favorite artist (of every genre, not just dubstep)

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Post by Sonika » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:46 pm

LumiNiscent wrote:something I noticed is that most of the Burial fans I know (including myself) didn't really like his music when they first heard it, it took me some time to get into it and now he's my favorite artist (of every genre, not just dubstep)
DITTO! that's weird, I guess you have to adjust to it and then once you adjust, it becomes really good :W:
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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by garethom » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:07 pm

Sonika wrote:
LumiNiscent wrote:something I noticed is that most of the Burial fans I know (including myself) didn't really like his music when they first heard it, it took me some time to get into it and now he's my favorite artist (of every genre, not just dubstep)
DITTO! that's weird, I guess you have to adjust to it and then once you adjust, it becomes really good :W:
For me it was the complete opposite, when I first heard "Burial" I was just like :o The music I'd been looking for my whole life.

Then when I dug a little deeper and heard South London Boroughs, I was like :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :n:

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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by Sonika » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:12 pm

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LumiNiscent wrote:something I noticed is that most of the Burial fans I know (including myself) didn't really like his music when they first heard it, it took me some time to get into it and now he's my favorite artist (of every genre, not just dubstep)
DITTO! that's weird, I guess you have to adjust to it and then once you adjust, it becomes really good :W:
For me it was the complete opposite, when I first heard "Burial" I was just like :o The music I'd been looking for my whole life.

Then when I dug a little deeper and heard South London Boroughs, I was like :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :n:
Yeah I'm still like :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :n: every time I hear South London Boroughs haha.

I don't get the Burial haters, there are quite a few of them on this forum.
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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by ultraspatial » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:34 pm

garethom wrote:
Sonika wrote:
LumiNiscent wrote:something I noticed is that most of the Burial fans I know (including myself) didn't really like his music when they first heard it, it took me some time to get into it and now he's my favorite artist (of every genre, not just dubstep)
DITTO! that's weird, I guess you have to adjust to it and then once you adjust, it becomes really good :W:
For me it was the complete opposite, when I first heard "Burial" I was just like :o The music I'd been looking for my whole life.

Then when I dug a little deeper and heard South London Boroughs, I was like :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :n:
I didn't care much for Burial at first actually, was much more into grime at the time.
Kinda have this love/hate thing for Burial. There are days when I have Raver or the Where Is Home? remix stuck in my head for hours and it's the only thing I wanna listen to, and there are days when I'm utterly sick of that sound.

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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by 1point5 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:38 pm

Sonika wrote:
I don't get the Burial haters, there are quite a few of them on this forum.
I'm certainly not a Burial hater, but I do think he's a bit overrated. His style and production is amazing but his tracks have just never really done anything for me. And I absolutely love that style of dark, mid range garage drums, but I think other people such as Scuba can pull it off so much better (I know their styles are fairly different though)
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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by Today » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:43 pm

it's not a dubstep track, but a sonic collage of beautiful ambience?
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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by NiGHTS_24 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:01 pm

garethom wrote: 'Raver' wouldn't sound so good coming out of 'Archangel' as it does coming out of 'UK'.

Those beatless pieces make the albums.

One of the main reasons why untrue is a great album is the order of the tunes. It feels like it has a beginning and an end tells a story.

Lot of albums find that hard to do

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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by Kochari » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:14 pm

Maccaveli wrote:It occurred to me recently that In McDonald's might just be my favourite Burial track
Me too :w:
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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by timmyyabas » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:13 pm

etched headplate is a tune! but it's even better with a bit of endorphin before it. sets it up nicely.
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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by wobbles » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:31 pm

Its a feeling

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Re: What's the point of it?

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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by s-cease » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:30 am

Nevalo wrote:td;lr
tl;dr? Yeah, I guess I could've been much briefer. I have a bad habit of ranting a lot.
ultraspatial wrote:just the general opinion that you gotta listen to his tunes "while walking the rainy streets alone at night" to "get" them.
Sonika wrote: Yeah again, I disagree because I feel like I "get" them just fine without. Then again, I've never listened to them alone on a rainy street so maybe I'm missing out :lol:
I actually just tried it, realized I was walking alone down a rainy street in the middle of the night and remembered this discussion :)
However, my usual headphones broke recently and my backup pair wouldn't do any song justice so it really wasn't that special.
Sonika wrote:Interesting question - addressing your point about repetition, it IS, at heart, dance music, which is inherently repetitive. However, although dubstep can sometimes repeat a lot, it doesn't generally seem "repetitive" to me because to me, being repetitive is when a phrase or idea repeats enough that it becomes boring and uninterering to the listener.
Sonika wrote:One could argue that artists like Mala, Pinch, Coki, Burial, Distance, etc etc etc make "repetitive" tracks, but I would argue that just because they repeat a lot doesn't make them repetitive (because the vibe they maintain, some people call it "bassweight," keeps it interesting.
I like, how you're really thinking about this and I understand what you mean. I like the piece that is repeated but at least in the beginning I believed that this didn't justify repeating it so much (since it is very short). However I recently realized that there are small variations that keep it interesting and I might begin to like this tune.
Sonika wrote:However, tracks like that just nail a certain vibe for me that I really like.
Yes, I know what you mean.
Sonika wrote:Also, I know this is really cliché, but it IS important, what medium are you using to listen to this music? Because you won't really get it on laptop speakers.
Very valid, my current headphones I use at home really aren't that good but they're OK. I've been searching for a good place to buy the Beyerdynamic dt 770 and a half-decent amp so I guess maybe my opinion will change after I've bought them. :)
LumiNiscent wrote:something I noticed is that most of the Burial fans I know (including myself) didn't really like his music when they first heard it, it took me some time to get into it and now he's my favorite artist (of every genre, not just dubstep)
Yes, I believe that's often the case with new music that is "strange" to you.

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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by Maccaveli » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:37 am

Still over-thinking it...

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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by _TraX_ » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:51 am

If music or art for any matter needed a 'point" per say , many many many creative minds over the years would be shit outta luck.
Don't "find" a point to it , make one out of it.
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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by Sonika » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:53 am

Nope, not over-thinking it, it's okay to think deeply about music we love :w: yeah dude the beyerdynamics are really nice, the ultimate thing to save up for are some nice speakers and a subwoofer
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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by Maccaveli » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:05 am

Sonika wrote:Nope, not over-thinking it, it's okay to think deeply about music we love :w: yeah dude the beyerdynamics are really nice, the ultimate thing to save up for are some nice speakers and a subwoofer
There's a difference between thinking deeply and over-analyzing it. If you desperately try to find the point in something you're not letting it naturally come to you.

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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by Marcus » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:07 am

Maccaveli wrote:
Sonika wrote:Nope, not over-thinking it, it's okay to think deeply about music we love :w: yeah dude the beyerdynamics are really nice, the ultimate thing to save up for are some nice speakers and a subwoofer
There's a difference between thinking deeply and over-analyzing it. If you desperately try to find the point in something you're not letting it naturally come to you.
Etches828 wrote:assuming that 130 is a tempo not a sound, which is the point, think it's pretty good when stuff is just described by tempo opposed to some made up name

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Re: What's the point of it?

Post by davwuh » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:16 am

garethom wrote:
Sonika wrote:
LumiNiscent wrote:something I noticed is that most of the Burial fans I know (including myself) didn't really like his music when they first heard it, it took me some time to get into it and now he's my favorite artist (of every genre, not just dubstep)
DITTO! that's weird, I guess you have to adjust to it and then once you adjust, it becomes really good :W:
For me it was the complete opposite, when I first heard "Burial" I was just like :o The music I'd been looking for my whole life.

Then when I dug a little deeper and heard South London Boroughs, I was like :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :n:
same here pal, as you can probably tell from my tunes that sounds a big influence on me.. I'm guessing you're around the same age as me (early/mid-twenties), so we both grew up in UK cities and UK garage was the big sound for us growing up as kids.. so there's a childhood reminiscent aspect of it, with the triplet drums and deep basslines but Burial's sound also brings that urban England feeling to his music, that I think only guys who grew up in the UK can truly understand.. not to say others can't appreciate it, because Burial seems to be universally loved, which is awesome.. but tracks like 'In Mcdonalds', I think only someone from the UK can really "get" the unique emotion of that track for example. Not that I wanna sound exclusive, but I'm sure some guys from Eng-er-land will back me up on that

& yeah, when I first listened to Burial I loved it.. I'd been listening to dubstep for a while and liked DMZ and Skream 'n all that, but Burial was the first one that really clicked with me.. I've always been an "album" guy, rather than releases, so I was well into that aspect of it too, but the whole sound/atmosphere/emotion of that first album just sat right with me from the first time I heard it - like you said, the sound I'd been looking for my whole life :i:
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