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BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:Anyway... Speaking of fish... If you wanna learn to swim, go buy a book on "how to swim" and pop these legal enhancers for every study session before jumping into the deep end and drowning in a most humiliating fashion. What could this mean? [DIRECTIONAL EFFORT IS A MUST]

Plenty of stnuc would take such drugs then spend 10 hours frying their dribbled brains out of their eyes and mouth, staring at their own hands just expecting the next reincarnation of genius to visit. In reality, they'd just get to level 90 at being a waste of oxygen if that's all they practice. There's plenty of other catalysts to use in learning... Even if it means using drugs to simply induce a strict routine or enhance endurance... Hell, even just to escape "the real world"... Ain't that intelligence.... guyz

FUCKING HELL HE RETURNS!!!!!!

Not much information about long term harm though. You could end up growing four arms.

jameshk wrote:Not much information about long term harm though. You could end up growing four arms.

Fuck that, I'd have to buy new shirts.

wub wrote:

jameshk wrote:Not much information about long term harm though. You could end up growing four arms.

Fuck that, I'd have to buy new shirts.

Or just a hat.

jameshk wrote:Not much information about long term harm though. You could end up growing four arms.

If they were usefully sized, well-proportioned and well-positioned arms I wouldn't mind.

kay wrote:

jameshk wrote:Not much information about long term harm though. You could end up growing four arms.

If they were usefully sized, well-proportioned and well-positioned arms I wouldn't mind.

magma wrote:

kay wrote:

jameshk wrote:Not much information about long term harm though. You could end up growing four arms.

If they were usefully sized, well-proportioned and well-positioned arms I wouldn't mind.

i ended up watching 2.5 hrs of joe rogan just now....

drugs can raise kundalini temporarily

dj_djg wrote:i ended up watching 2.5 hrs of joe rogan just now....

his podcasts are awesome so much interesting n funny shit

Given that mind altering substances are no stranger to the world of musicians, I think its worth discussing the more natural side of things and how they relate to general well being and mental focus, which then translates into your mindstate during production.

I'm wondering what, if any, peoples experience with multi-vitamin supplements have been like, or some of the more controversial "nootropic" vitamins/supplements (bullshit? legit?)

I started a Bayer "One-a-Day Men's Health Formula" about 2 months ago, and I have to say: I had never felt more drained and unhealthy. I went from a somewhat energetic person to zombie-mode where all I wanted to do was sleep and watch youtube. Only recently did I put two and two together and stopped taking them, and I feel worlds better for it.

With some quick googling, it appears I'm not the only one whos having adverse effects from these things, which is kind of startling to me, because anybody who has these effects, might just keep taking them because they think they'll help with...the effects that the vitamins are causing.

DSF: what say you?

I heard in some TED talk, someone rattled off some statistics about several vitamins, and they double cancer rates etc etc, and he was like how is it that people sell and buy that shit. Vitamins is a huge multibillion dollar industry, and much of it may actually be harmful.

Now, I'm just biding my time until Alpha Cat posts. Check here or in the snh for posts by alpha and nootropic, should turn up some worth while results.

I have yet to try some of his suggestions, but in my experience, any gain in the world is also associated with at least an equal loss, so try to keep away from everything I can. I do take some prescriptions on the regular now though.

Placebo mostly, though obviously some vitamins are essential (just from the right sources). Also as nowaysj mentioned it's a huge industry with ties to big pharma. I'd avoid it and stick to natural drugs which have been proven over thousands of years if you must do some. Eating well and some exercise will do you far more good than eating overpriced pills. Bayer is a truly awful corp with a grim history, wouldn't give them a penny.

nowaysj wrote: I have yet to try some of his suggestions, but in my experience, any gain in the world is also associated with at least an equal loss, so try to keep away from everything I can. I do take some prescriptions on the regular now though.

Well if a person is already at a nutritional loss then there should be no issue with taking supplements, except that from what I've heard, the body doesn't actually absorb the nutrients of these mass produced supplements very well, and, in the process of trying to make use of everything ingested, your body ends up expending tons of energy.

Scary shit...

I spent 3 years formulating and marketing these types of products, if you have some more specific questions i could probably help you out...

what are you asking?

Why'd he feel like shit taking the bayer multi?

Climax wrote:I spent 3 years formulating and marketing these types of products, if you have some more specific questions i could probably help you out...

what are you asking?

Well first, what products did you work on

What were they intended for?

What is the testing process like, and how are long term effects projected?

nowaysj wrote:Why'd he feel like shit taking the bayer multi?

I'd guess the same reason people have died or contracted diseases due to Bayer products. They are interested in money, not health.