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Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:31 am
by mikeyp
yeah, yours is more what i really want to do but I just don't have the material or need for it now

anyway after playing with the ill gates one more there's a lot i don't like and some of it may be my unfamiliarity with ableton since im new to it but

the fx mapping is horrible. like, ridiculous and theres no wet/dry knob, its full blast and idk i could go deeper but it's just bad

there's no need for a hipass and lowpass filter. two knobs are wasted because there's two of each. one knob should be a high and low pass like in traktor where centered is default and go right its hi and left it's low

can't think of any more off the top of my head but it seems like it's more for making tracks sound cool than actually djing and blending two tracks together. this might be more of my lack of experience with ableton and cueing with it and whatever but it shouldnt be this hard

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:34 am
by mikeyp
i also don't like how the vu meters are relative to the crossfader. i want to know how loud something is going to be before i fade over without looking at my laptop

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:38 am
by motox2121
How do you guys deal w/ tempo when mixing a set w/ live?

Do you stay at one tempo the entire time? One set tempo for a range/genre of tunes; adjusting between different genres? Fine-Adjust with the tempo knob over a period of time? Or beatmatching a 40 bpm difference from dubstep to triphop seamlessly like a boss? lol. I found you can definitely stay in a certain range and have it sound fine w/ the warps etc. I also made some dummy clips for automation that will alter my tempo smoothly depending on how i set the clip, which is pretty nice. But i'm not sure when is the best time to use it. I feel like this is an aspect of dj'ing that isn't talked about much.

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:27 am
by AxeD
OfficialDAPT wrote:Long story short I have an APC40 and I want to start DJing.
The fact that this even makes sense is kind of strange. It's not that different from djing with a spare
keyboard really.

Or are we actually talking about using Ableton or whatever to present music to an audience?

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:40 am
by OfficialDAPT
AxeD wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:Long story short I have an APC40 and I want to start DJing.
The fact that this even makes sense is kind of strange. It's not that different from djing with a spare
keyboard really.

Or are we actually talking about using Ableton or whatever to present music to an audience?
Maybe you shouldn't take my sentences out of context. The apc40 is made and only works with ableton pretty much.

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:53 am
by mikeyp
OfficialDAPT wrote:
AxeD wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:Long story short I have an APC40 and I want to start DJing.
The fact that this even makes sense is kind of strange. It's not that different from djing with a spare
keyboard really.

Or are we actually talking about using Ableton or whatever to present music to an audience?
Maybe you shouldn't take my sentences out of context. The apc40 is made and only works with ableton pretty much.
it's made for ableton but i have a sweet mapping to use it with traktor

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:23 am
by OfficialDAPT
mikeyp wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:
AxeD wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:Long story short I have an APC40 and I want to start DJing.
The fact that this even makes sense is kind of strange. It's not that different from djing with a spare
keyboard really.

Or are we actually talking about using Ableton or whatever to present music to an audience?
Maybe you shouldn't take my sentences out of context. The apc40 is made and only works with ableton pretty much.
it's made for ableton but i have a sweet mapping to use it with traktor
So you "DJ" with it?

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:29 pm
by mikeyp
OfficialDAPT wrote:
mikeyp wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:
AxeD wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:Long story short I have an APC40 and I want to start DJing.
The fact that this even makes sense is kind of strange. It's not that different from djing with a spare
keyboard really.

Or are we actually talking about using Ableton or whatever to present music to an audience?
Maybe you shouldn't take my sentences out of context. The apc40 is made and only works with ableton pretty much.
it's made for ableton but i have a sweet mapping to use it with traktor
So you "DJ" with it?
i could yeah..

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:31 pm
by AxeD
There it is

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:34 pm
by mikeyp
i'm really confused

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:51 am
by mikeyp
just got traktor 2.5
it has remix decks that look similar to ableton's clips
gonna have a go at mapping them to work the same way

trakbleton anyone?

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:55 am
by Hircine
mikeyp wrote:just got traktor 2.5
it has remix decks that look similar to ableton's clips
gonna have a go at mapping them to work the same way

trakbleton anyone?
you can't use all the remix decks functions without a F1 controller, sadly. Otherwise, I'd be clip djing with maschine :U:

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:57 am
by mikeyp
Hircine wrote:
mikeyp wrote:just got traktor 2.5
it has remix decks that look similar to ableton's clips
gonna have a go at mapping them to work the same way

trakbleton anyone?
you can't use all the remix decks functions without a F1 controller, sadly. Otherwise, I'd be clip djing with maschine :U:
damn :( well i'll see what i can do anyway
and i just left my buddy's house who just got an f1 today lol i didn't get to play with it though

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:01 am
by Hircine
mikeyp wrote:
Hircine wrote:
mikeyp wrote:just got traktor 2.5
it has remix decks that look similar to ableton's clips
gonna have a go at mapping them to work the same way

trakbleton anyone?
you can't use all the remix decks functions without a F1 controller, sadly. Otherwise, I'd be clip djing with maschine :U:
damn :( well i'll see what i can do anyway
and i just left my buddy's house who just got an f1 today lol i didn't get to play with it though
Neither did I, but I heard you can load up tracks on the fly to any of the pads. Can't do that in Ableton.

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:09 am
by mikeyp
Hircine wrote:
mikeyp wrote:
Hircine wrote:
mikeyp wrote:just got traktor 2.5
it has remix decks that look similar to ableton's clips
gonna have a go at mapping them to work the same way

trakbleton anyone?
you can't use all the remix decks functions without a F1 controller, sadly. Otherwise, I'd be clip djing with maschine :U:
damn :( well i'll see what i can do anyway
and i just left my buddy's house who just got an f1 today lol i didn't get to play with it though
Neither did I, but I heard you can load up tracks on the fly to any of the pads. Can't do that in Ableton.
yeah it looked pretty sweet im gonna have to steal it from him

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:01 pm
by AxeD
I'm boycotting 2.5, but I never actually tried it. I figured the new functions take away from
actual djing.

Re: APC40 DJing

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:06 am
by mikeyp
AxeD wrote:I'm boycotting 2.5, but I never actually tried it. I figured the new functions take away from
actual djing.
which new functions?