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other avenues that are profitable is teaching
if you actually play instruments you can give lessons locally

Your not going to make enough to live off from record sales alone, whether that's through Vinyl / mp3 or whatever, but you will make a hefty chunk from playing out if you become reasonably successful.

I've heard Boddika gets paid up to £1000 per gig and he's playing out constantly... so that's an indictation of what you can potentially make. Don't quote me on that by the way cos it might not be accurate. Now, to sound like a snob, it's worth bearing in mind that the kind of stuff he and others like him make is constantly fresh and raw, whereas the brostep that most seem to love on this forum really isn't evolving and it all sounds the same / wank. Your going to have to have some originality / niche to go places I reckon.

Perej wrote:whereas the brostep that most seem to love on this forum really isn't evolving and it all sounds the same / wank. Your going to have to have some originality / niche to go places I reckon.

I think Dubs board aside, there is not all that much love for the bro sound...and a lot of the guys on here that I speak and listen to on the regular are pushing themselves, or at the least driving their sound in a unique direction.

wub wrote:

Perej wrote:whereas the brostep that most seem to love on this forum really isn't evolving and it all sounds the same / wank. Your going to have to have some originality / niche to go places I reckon.

I think Dubs board aside, there is not all that much love for the bro sound...and a lot of the guys on here that I speak and listen to on the regular are pushing themselves, or at the least driving their sound in a unique direction.

Fair enough, I wasn't trying to provoke anything, just going by what I've seen on the 'How do I make this sound' thread.

Perej wrote:

wub wrote:

Perej wrote:whereas the brostep that most seem to love on this forum really isn't evolving and it all sounds the same / wank. Your going to have to have some originality / niche to go places I reckon.

I think Dubs board aside, there is not all that much love for the bro sound...and a lot of the guys on here that I speak and listen to on the regular are pushing themselves, or at the least driving their sound in a unique direction.

Fair enough, I wasn't trying to provoke anything, just going by what I've seen on the 'How do I make this sound' thread.

Always figured it was that way because most people producing non-bro stuff have been in the game long enough to know their way around things. And (don't quote me on this) I assume the sound design process isn't as complex. For the most part I see the more traditional dubstep producers asking how to make more compelling rhythm/percussion sections.

But on the subject of brostep and making money, that ship's pretty much already sailed unless you have some Jedi synth skills that'll bring something radically different to the genre.

People working with the more original side of dub are more willing to play with their sounds and aren't trying to find the cliche to throw into their tracks. They're more willing to go through trial and error in pursuit of the sound they want, as it's not so pidgeon holed already.

On the upside, I hear Kode9 and Martyn charge £3000 and 4000 per set respectively. But also remember how long it must have took them to get to that position.

I find the OP a bit cringe worthy.

Yes, there is money in electronic music; weather it be a job within the industry or being an artist/DJ.

You're not even old enough to (legally) play a club so theres one revenue out of the window and unless you're a bloody amazing producer (I haven't listened) who makes cross over tunes I doubt you'll make enough money to move out of your parents house and support yourself (and not just rent..) based purely on sales of Dubstep music.

Now on the flipside of that; if you can build a huge Youtube fan base, broadcast on live streaming platforms and run a successful blog then you could EASILY achieve this with revenue from advertising on those platforms (I know people who clear 1-2grand from google a month just from youtube/blog advertisments). If you want to make money in this day and age without getting a job (i'm sorry but unless you're touring like Mala/Skream/whoever else is big these days, you're a hobbyist, maybe one who earns money but still a hobbyist.) you have to be smart and take advantage of things laid out for you which if you're willing to put in the work will help you buy a house with money in your bank by 25-30.

Don't make music 'for' money but if you're smart you could make money 'from' music if you're smart about it and have a sound people can enjoy.

it's saturday; this week, i've:

--produced a bachata track for clients, based on their surprisingly dope garageband demo
--recorded percussion for one of bjork's bandmates;
--taught my weekly percussion classes;
--met w/ an artist i've worked with before who's looking for a musical director for her recently-funded-via-grant project;
--done a few teaching artist gigs accompanying dance classes;
--written a song w/ a songwriter in town from Sweden, recommended to each other via folks at ASCAP;
--recorded a hiphop tune for a friend's intern;
--mixed a punjabi record for an artist's upcoming debut release;
--done mix edits for a clients 3rd LP

some pay upfront, some are expected to pay down the line, some perhaps offer no $ but a host of good networking opportunities.

I haven't had a "day job" in 9 years, and pay bills making/teaching/recording/producing music.

Pretty much non-starving person on the creative side of the industry that i know works like this. If you want to make $ making music, you have to do anything and everything that's worthwhile doing. If you just want to make $ while being around music, work at a publishing company/management co/label/etc.

^ you're a force to be reckoned with.

reminds me of a quote from my lecturer "I'm going to build a studio in my grounds, that's right, I have grounds. The music industry isn't bad to us all"

im not really into the bro sound ,but il have to make money so thought maybe il jump in it to ,,just for the cash,,

Give it a shot but I dunno how good it will be if you're making something you don't even like. I think stuff like that leaves a mark and you can often tell when music or movies were made for the wrong reasons.

wormcode wrote:Give it a shot but I dunno how good it will be if you're making something you don't even like. I think stuff like that leaves a mark and you can often tell when music or movies were made for the wrong reasons.

i understand that,and your right,but if im gonna make money or if any of us here is gonna make money we are gonna get it from teens ,,,cuz lets be realistic,,,half of the todays brostep fans have no idea what they are listening to.I even had an experiance witha girl that thought that skrillex made his sound with a guitar and real drums O_o.And i think they just care for the music that they can mosh pit,headbang,drink,take drugs and so on.None of them is gonna analyze the music.My point is just take a look at the Bro audiance.(sorry for my english grammar)

Rezzidex wrote:im not really into the bro sound ,but il have to make money so thought maybe il jump in it to ,,just for the cash,,

That's called selling out. Do you want to be a sell-out?

and skrillex and most of the bro artists that sell and tour have been producing for years and years, hell skrillex had over a decade being a professional musician before he even touched dubstep and house
the guys who are touring and selling tunes have put in time, work, made connections
it's not just oh hey this is popular, i'll make it and people will buy it
if it was that simple most of this forum could be out touring and rolling in the bucks

hearing j:kenzo play my tune was better than any amount of money i've made....though to be honest i've made peanuts.

Rezzidex wrote:

wormcode wrote:Give it a shot but I dunno how good it will be if you're making something you don't even like. I think stuff like that leaves a mark and you can often tell when music or movies were made for the wrong reasons.

i understand that,and your right,but if im gonna make money or if any of us here is gonna make money we are gonna get it from teens ,,,cuz lets be realistic,,,half of the todays brostep fans have no idea what they are listening to.I even had an experiance witha girl that thought that skrillex made his sound with a guitar and real drums O_o.And i think they just care for the music that they can mosh pit,headbang,drink,take drugs and so on.None of them is gonna analyze the music.My point is just take a look at the Bro audiance.(sorry for my english grammar)

in all fairness, this is a somewhat valid point. Alex Clare-Too Close backs this up, its some what of a big hit, and its fucking terribly produced, but people are like 'oh but his singing is fantastic ignore the rest of it' things like that just fuck me right off.
Ultimately there's shit all money in music, I've had airplay on Radio 1xtra twice (namedrop over) and all its made me is £200.Unless as previously mentioned your creating a new genre that everybodys into your just gonna have to get a 9-5 and make music on the side like the rest of us

alpz wrote:

Rezzidex wrote:im not really into the bro sound ,but il have to make money so thought maybe il jump in it to ,,just for the cash,,

That's called selling out. Do you want to be a sell-out?

man call it whatever...but my plan is making brop tunes and realeasing them,and on the side i can still make deep tunes that i enjoy and love producing.my mom is working 24 hours to pay for my school and everything,i dont think i am the best producer in the world ,but i think that i can make SOME money.

Cheeky wrote:

Rezzidex wrote:

wormcode wrote:Give it a shot but I dunno how good it will be if you're making something you don't even like. I think stuff like that leaves a mark and you can often tell when music or movies were made for the wrong reasons.

i understand that,and your right,but if im gonna make money or if any of us here is gonna make money we are gonna get it from teens ,,,cuz lets be realistic,,,half of the todays brostep fans have no idea what they are listening to.I even had an experiance witha girl that thought that skrillex made his sound with a guitar and real drums O_o.And i think they just care for the music that they can mosh pit,headbang,drink,take drugs and so on.None of them is gonna analyze the music.My point is just take a look at the Bro audiance.(sorry for my english grammar)

in all fairness, this is a somewhat valid point. Alex Clare-Too Close backs this up, its some what of a big hit, and its fucking terribly produced, but people are like 'oh but his singing is fantastic ignore the rest of it' things like that just fuck me right off.
Ultimately there's shit all money in music, I've had airplay on Radio 1xtra twice (namedrop over) and all its made me is £200.Unless as previously mentioned your creating a new genre that everybodys into your just gonna have to get a 9-5 and make music on the side like the rest of us

ahahahaha i dun know if you heard about -tween wave- ahahahahaah its from south park,chek it out dude type on youtube "tween wave" and see what comes up,,im gonna start producing that stuff man ahahahahhahaahahhahah