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almostskate100 wrote:How then would I go about adding a clean, new sine wave under this if I no longer have a MIDI clip to reference which notes are being played?

use your ears?

I'm really loving the suggestions here, I suppose careful subbass to midrange processing would be best, resampled, split into bands leaving the sub unaffected with mid highs more processed, since I only feel one resample cycle is enough to get results im happy with , thanks a bunch yall i appreciate it

i resample a lot and all i gota say is dont worry too too much about the technicalities, i used 2 not resample since i was happy with my synthesis ability and didnt like the idea of losing the flexibility you get when sticking to midi, but if you just spend a whole lot of hours resampling, arranging & constantly automating parameters you'll make a lot of nice discoveries as you keep trying. its best to get good at using synthesis alone and resampling/fx chains as well, both worlds have a lot to offer so just keep trying and you'll naturally know what works for you once you've put in the hours
but yeh with subbass, no doubt ul have to high pass your resampled bass and then layer with a sine

uhm you can duplicate your midi track to be resampled before you flatten it or bounce it to audio, whatever you want to call it.

sunny_b_uk wrote:i resample a lot and all i gota say is dont worry too too much about the technicalities, i used 2 not resample since i was happy with my synthesis ability and didnt like the idea of losing the flexibility you get when sticking to midi, but if you just spend a whole lot of hours resampling, arranging & constantly automating parameters you'll make a lot of nice discoveries as you keep trying. its best to get good at using synthesis alone and resampling/fx chains as well, both worlds have a lot to offer so just keep trying and you'll naturally know what works for you once you've put in the hours
but yeh with subbass, no doubt ul have to high pass your resampled bass and then layer with a sine

the drop in your sig...holy cow. sounds/seems like you know what you're doing man!

This thread is a typical example of overthinking a topic and making it overcomplicated. ehbrums was right in that adding a sine wave after the resampling process is the best way and that only volume/pitch (I know they both do the same, but for beginners applying that lfo/envelope parameter ) They way to think about it is this:

You create a midi pattern utilizing a bass patch made in massive, right?..Automate the shit outta that thing, use pitch bends whatever, right?....BOUNCE THAT BITCH!....Duh?!....Here's the kicker: Create another audio track, duplicate that patch, reset it to a basic sine wave, only automating the pitch/volume, BOUNCE THAT BITCH! Don't forget to eq/filter them appropriately. Now you have a sub bass layer following that mid bass layer. Bounce them together and presto! A full audio clip to mess around with and continue resampling with.

If it's at this point you start to do further manipulation via modulation/automation/fx layering and discover some of the bassweight is gone, you can again repeat the process except that instead of starting with synths, you utilize samplers. I have also found that frequency splitting can carry the bassweight over too, but not quite as well as layering a sine wave afterwards does.

cheers.

BTW: The idea of automating the volume of the sub is to give it movement to the midrange rather than a droning/static sub that follows a melody..if you can call it that..

Toolman4 wrote:This thread is a typical example of overthinking a topic and making it overcomplicated. ehbrums was right in that adding a sine wave after the resampling process is the best way and that only volume/pitch (I know they both do the same, but for beginners applying that lfo/envelope parameter ) They way to think about it is this:

You create a midi pattern utilizing a bass patch made in massive, right?..Automate the shit outta that thing, use pitch bends whatever, right?....BOUNCE THAT BITCH!....Duh?!....Here's the kicker: Create another audio track, duplicate that patch, reset it to a basic sine wave, only automating the pitch/volume, BOUNCE THAT BITCH! Don't forget to eq/filter them appropriately. Now you have a sub bass layer following that mid bass layer. Bounce them together and presto! A full audio clip to mess around with and continue resampling with.

If it's at this point you start to do further manipulation via modulation/automation/fx layering and discover some of the bassweight is gone, you can again repeat the process except that instead of starting with synths, you utilize samplers. I have also found that frequency splitting can carry the bassweight over too, but not quite as well as layering a sine wave afterwards does.

cheers.

BTW: The idea of automating the volume of the sub is to give it movement to the midrange rather than a droning/static sub that follows a melody..if you can call it that..

this was the most helpful bro, thanks! initially i was avoiding your tactic with all the work of resampling the bass, then creating a duplicate sine, then resampling etc then referring back to where you've cut and pasted your bass. but as you say, replacing with a sine at the end does hold more weight if you were to just solo your low from your processing, given in my case, i think one cycle is good enough for me, I on average love the textures of my initial synths so distortion and such would play a small role in everything else, and I tend to avoid the boring sine note too

Toolman4 wrote:ehbrums was right

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