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Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:43 pm
by kay
I read some time ago about combinations of colours resulting in new colours that the eyes don't process well. I'll try to dig up the article.

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:00 am
by AxeD
What if there's more dimension we can't grasp/see.
Couldn't even begin to understand one bit of it when something like that would be 'discovered'.
I'm already wrecking my brain trying to come up with examples of things that none of our senses can pick up on.
Probably because it's imposible.

Synesthesia is also too strange.

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:51 am
by lovelydivot
I find it really interesting that we think of green as being good...
associated with plants and growth and lushness...

When really - the reason all those plants appear green
is because it's the only wavelength being rejected and reflected...


Plants actually thrive on red and blue...

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:57 am
by idontreallygiveashit
kay wrote:I read some time ago about combinations of colours resulting in new colours that the eyes don't process well. I'll try to dig up the article.
I've read this, it's like when you hold up a colour over an eye and look at another strong colour and it all just becomes a flickering mess, that's your brain not being able to precess the colours. Or some shit like that.

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:47 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
ive heard dmt lets you see every imaginable colour

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:51 am
by wub
Can we create new colors in our mind?
Yes...they would be pigments of our imagination.

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:52 am
by Terpit
If you saw a new colour, for any reason, would you be able to remember it? or would you just know you saw another colour and couldnt imagine it?

^dmt is certainly colourful, im not sure if i ever saw new colours tho

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:52 am
by Terpit
wub wrote:
Can we create new colors in our mind?
Yes...they would be pigments of our imagination.
awwwwwww

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:53 am
by JTMMusicuk
Terpit wrote:If you saw a new colour, for any reason, would you be able to remember it? or would you just know you saw another colour and couldnt imagine it?

^dmt is certainly colourful, im not sure if i ever saw new colours tho
JTMMusicuk wrote:I swear when i took LSD once i saw a new colour, cant remember what it looked like and when i try to imagine it hurts ...true story

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:54 am
by Terpit
JTMMusicuk wrote:
Terpit wrote:If you saw a new colour, for any reason, would you be able to remember it? or would you just know you saw another colour and couldnt imagine it?

^dmt is certainly colourful, im not sure if i ever saw new colours tho
JTMMusicuk wrote:I swear when i took LSD once i saw a new colour, cant remember what it looked like and when i try to imagine it hurts ...true story
Fair enough, i definitely read that earlier and forgot.

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:00 am
by karmacazee
Octarine...

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:04 am
by wub
karmacazee wrote:Octarine...
Sapient pearwood?

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:04 am
by Terpit
Purdange

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:07 am
by fassyman
Kochari wrote:
Alan Watts, The Way of Zen wrote:...The eye's sensitivity to colour is impaired by the fixed idea that there are just five true colours. There is an infinite continuity in shading, and breaking it down into divisions with names distracts the attention from its subtlety. This is why 'the sage makes provision for the stomach and not for the eye', which is to say that he judges by the concrete content of the experience, and not by its conformity with purely theoretical standards.
Pow!
:h: one of the best books i've ever read!

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:26 am
by fassyman
collige wrote:No, because colors are just specific wavelengths of light.

how would you explain cases of this --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia

i remember hearing about a classical composer (cant remember the name) who had such a strong case of synesthesia that he would see huge sweeping colourfull lights when he heard music. When he was conducting he would shout "more blue" "greener" etc etc.. really interesting shit. i think they mentioned it on QI actually

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:38 am
by karmacazee
wub wrote:
karmacazee wrote:Octarine...
Sapient pearwood?
:D

This man knows.

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:02 pm
by jugo
interesting question - to be honest you never really 'see' the colour of a thing.

what you're actually seeing is a certain wavelength of light reflected back by whatever it is you're looking at. the rest is absorbed by the object. for example, a ripe banana absorbs everything except the yellow spectrum, which it reflects back to us, so we see it as yellow.

as well as this another organism might have different visual receptors triggered by different wavelengths and so would 'see' it as another colour. the object itself would be what it was before - a collective of charged energy particles that react to external stimuli.

it all blows my mind this stuff - changes how you think about reality

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:04 pm
by JTMMusicuk
thats why dark clothes get hotter in the sun, theyre absorbing more light

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:50 pm
by Genevieve
fassyman wrote:
collige wrote:No, because colors are just specific wavelengths of light.

how would you explain cases of this --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia
That's our brains connecting 1 type of sensory input with another. It's like hearing a song on a soundtrack and being reminded of the movie every time you hear the song, in a way. It's still sound in specific frequencies.

Re: Can we create new colors in our mind?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:30 pm
by kay
idontreallygiveashit wrote:
kay wrote:I read some time ago about combinations of colours resulting in new colours that the eyes don't process well. I'll try to dig up the article.
I've read this, it's like when you hold up a colour over an eye and look at another strong colour and it all just becomes a flickering mess, that's your brain not being able to precess the colours. Or some shit like that.
Not the original article I read, but here's a wikipedia version:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_colors