also i love how many magazines give albums shit ratings, and then they get universal acclaim and they just change their rating...
look at all those asterisks tisk tisk
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:26 pm
by volcanogeorge
i know jay-z wrote still d.r.e. but dunno which other tunes he wrote
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:28 pm
by mo_respect
Nas wrote The Watcher too
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:29 pm
by wub
volcanogeorge wrote:i know jay-z wrote still d.r.e. but dunno which other tunes he wrote
Ludcaris did some of his tunes on Detox I think?
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:29 pm
by mo_respect
And Mel-Man "helped" produce on all the tracks
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:30 pm
by Laszlo
wub wrote:Didn't Dre have his rhymes ghost written?
He did (at least some tracks on 2001), but I can kind of understand his albums getting 5 mics for the overall end product.
50 cent, on the other hand, (who has also allegedly had his rhymes ghost written) getting 50th place is a bit of a piss-take.
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:30 pm
by Forum
Laszlo wrote:According to The Source
#1.
#2. Nas
#3.
#4. Jay Z
#5.
#6.
#7.
#8.
#9.
#10.
#11. LL Cool J
#12.
#13.
#14. Ice Cube
#15.
#16.
#17.
#18.
#19.
#20.
#21. Redman
#22.
#23.
#24. Jadakiss
#25. Queen Latifah
#26.
#27.
#28.
#29. Snoop Dogg
#30.
#31. Kanye West
#32.
#33.
#34.
#35.
#36. Lil Wayne
#37.
#38.
#39.
#40.
#41. Fabolous
#42.
#43.
#44.
#45. Lil Kim
#46. Rick Ross
#47.
#48.
#49. Lupe Fiasco
#50. 50 Cent
Discuss
This list looks like it was made my smash hits magazine
The top 10 should all be black thought
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:31 pm
by wub
Production not the same as engineering though. If Dre is overseeing production there's no way he'd be pushing buttons on everything.
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:33 pm
by Laszlo
@Southstar - You sayin Nas and Redman aren't good??
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:33 pm
by volcanogeorge
given how long detox is taking to be done, he's had time to push buttons on about 9 albums by now
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:37 pm
by mo_respect
wub wrote:Production not the same as engineering though. If Dre is overseeing production there's no way he'd be pushing buttons on everything.
i dont think it has to do with just engineering though. im not really knocking dre, but he's just more of a conductor than a composer.
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:40 pm
by wobbles
Dylan isnt anywhere on this list?
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:40 pm
by wub
mo respect wrote:
wub wrote:Production not the same as engineering though. If Dre is overseeing production there's no way he'd be pushing buttons on everything.
i dont think it has to do with just engineering though. im not really knocking dre, but he's just more of a conductor than a composer.
Fair comment...I think we were saying the same thing in different ways TBH
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:31 pm
by Forum
Laszlo wrote:@Southstar - You sayin Nas and Redman aren't good??
Not a fan of Nas. Redman is quality in the same way as DMX and Ice cube are quality but top lyricists?
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:39 pm
by Laszlo
Yeah, I mean obviously it's all opinions, but yes. Redman's first album alone puts him up there.
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:25 pm
by bela
wobbles wrote:Dylan isnt anywhere on this list?
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:40 pm
by mo_respect
southstar wrote:
Laszlo wrote:@Southstar - You sayin Nas and Redman aren't good??
Not a fan of Nas. Redman is quality in the same way as DMX and Ice cube are quality but top lyricists?
redmans punchline game on whut the album is legendary
Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:42 pm
by fractal
imortal technique would kill most of these guys, if we are talking about lyrics