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sunny_b_uk wrote:theyre both good, sytrus sounds better in quality when using the oversampling option. also fm8 has a powerful XY pad for morphing 4 presets and you can fm the filter in fm8 which is nice, however sytrus has a lot more filters types in there & can use 3 in series or parallel to create any sound you can think of.

How much should you oversample? For 'Draft' and also 'Render'? I'm using the VSTi plugins in Ableton btw

In Sytrus you can use ANY single cycle waveform, you can just throw it onto one of the operators and it works perfectly. On top of that you can manually edit the harmonics of the waveform inside of Sytrus, none of this you can do in FM8. You can get close to changing harmonics by modulating another operator at a high frequency but that wastes an operator and more CPU. Also, Sytrus has a full ring modulation matrix, which FM8 doesn't.

The only thing FM8 can do that sytrus can't is be used as an effect VST and can modulate sounds as an effect, which isn't that big of a deal.

IMHO, Sytrus is just a more powerful synth, it's looked after more, and had more updates. FM8 is still a VERY versatile synth.

alexfsu wrote:

sunny_b_uk wrote:theyre both good, sytrus sounds better in quality when using the oversampling option. also fm8 has a powerful XY pad for morphing 4 presets and you can fm the filter in fm8 which is nice, however sytrus has a lot more filters types in there & can use 3 in series or parallel to create any sound you can think of.

How much should you oversample? For 'Draft' and also 'Render'? I'm using the VSTi plugins in Ableton btw

i only ever use oversampling if im feeding back an oscillator into itself / if one of the oscillators is set to a really high ratio / if theres more than 2 oscillators modulating a single oscillator / if any of the oscs is a complex waveform rather than a sine or triangle etc.
tbh its not worth getting too complex when using fm (iv learnt from tweaking the osc section for too long and having the whole day disappear). better off simply using the waveshaper in the filter section if you want more harmonics, lately i do just that and leave the oversampling off since waveshaping is very powerful in itself.

Love them both.

stupid question

Both are good but I like Sytrus' additive engine a lot!

Sytrus FTW!!

You should race them.

Here's another great guide on building a Skrillex-style growl in Sytrus. It's a similar method as the first post's video, but I like this method more and imo it makes better sounds:

Interesting technique, thanks for posting.