This is a bit deceiving.1stfiest wrote:Why i might go for the KRK KNS 8400, as opposed to Beyerdynamic DT770, Shure SRH 840, AKG K550 or AT M50.
Beyer DT770
This graph shows a very bright sounding top end with over exaggerated lows. This could result in some interesting sounding mixes, but i feel they are going to be too sensitive to bass orientated music. The mid's are looking quite good, with an interesting dip at 5khz. Overall, mixing on such brightly coloured headphones is a huge put-off overall.
i have the 770 and yeah they might be not perfect but as i said as long as i can watch porn on a average loudness i am happy! maybe not japanese with this sharp highend1stfiest wrote:Why i might go for the KRK KNS 8400, as opposed to Beyerdynamic DT770, Shure SRH 840, AKG K550 or AT M50.
Beyer DT770
This graph shows a very bright sounding top end with over exaggerated lows. This could result in some interesting sounding mixes, but i feel they are going to be too sensitive to bass orientated music. The mid's are looking quite good, with an interesting dip at 5khz. Overall, mixing on such brightly coloured headphones is a huge put-off overall.
Shure SRH840
Bass cutoff at 50hz is quite unappealing, as i don't have a sub, i will be using headphones as my main bass reference. Very strong mid's, which means if you listen to anything that has been mixed on a "flat" system, the mid's are going to come across very shouty and in your face.
ATH M50
Scarily similar to the Beyerdynamics above, Bright top end and over exaggerated bass response, mid's are looking quite strong, giving them the shouty effect that the Shure SRH840's do.
AKG K550
Again, we are looking at a over exaggerated bass response, but really shallow high's. Which is unfortunate as this pair looks like it might have a really sweet sounding mid.
Finally, KRK KNS 8400
Here we have something a bit different to all the others, which is a strong bass response from 50-30hz, giving you a great definition for sub referencing. The high's are not over exagerated and the shallow dips at 5k is really going to give your music room to breathe. Another really interesting aspect of these headphones, is the dipped mids, as opposed to them being boosted and shouty, like all the other headphones.
In the past week, i have been fortunate to wear a couple of these headphones.
The SHURE SRH840's and the KRK KNS 8400's.
This, backed with what i can interoperate from the frequency response graphs, is what is shaping my decision.
The Shures and the KRKs are complete opposites in terms of there response in the mids. One being shouty and "in your face", and the other being dipped and slightly "pushed back". Now, if i am planning to listen and work on a project for hours on end, i don't want headphones that are going to be too shouty, too bright sounding, too over-exaggerated in any area. Something subtle and rather flat is preferred, this way I will enjoy the experience more, and spend more time enjoying production. Which, tbh, is what i'm after. Somewhat more of an audiophile opinion than that of a producer maybe? Or maybe the other way round, I can't really say.
Fortunately next week i will get a chance to listen in on some Beyerdynamic DT770's, which will also form my final opinion of the ATH M50's as they are very similar in terms of frequency response. My only regret, is that i won't have a chance to try the AKG K550's, which look like a really interesting "bass orientated" pair of headphones.
The 770's are closed back, as opposed to the 880's that are semi-open.Evil Dali wrote:Hey can anyone help me with these headphones? Price range is around 200 (euros) and I stumbled across these:
http://www.thomann.de/fi/beyerdynamic_c ... ne_pro.htm
http://www.thomann.de/fi/beyerdynamic_dt_770_pro_le.htm
http://www.thomann.de/fi/beyerdynamic_dt880_pro.htm
Any major differences between these three? Hearing low bass frequencys is essential.
1stfiest wrote:The 770's are closed back, as opposed to the 880's that are semi-open.Evil Dali wrote:Hey can anyone help me with these headphones? Price range is around 200 (euros) and I stumbled across these:
http://www.thomann.de/fi/beyerdynamic_c ... ne_pro.htm
http://www.thomann.de/fi/beyerdynamic_dt_770_pro_le.htm
http://www.thomann.de/fi/beyerdynamic_dt880_pro.htm
Any major differences between these three? Hearing low bass frequencys is essential.
Semi-open headphones are like having a pair of speakers close to your head, and can sound really nice, and much more enjoyable listening. However, if you are working in a noisy atmosphere, or don't want noise to spill from the headphones into the microphones, closed headphones are the way to go. Semi-open headphones are best used in an environment that is well acoustically treated basically. I have never heard of the custom one pro's. They are probably good, but i assume the 770/880's will be more reliable. Both of them have a great bass response and are highly reputable. Other headphones you might want to check out in this price range, are the KRK KNS 8400, AKG K550, Audio Technica MT50, or the Shure SRH840, that are all described above and throughout the first page of this thread.
Ideally, you want to go to your local guitar, keyboard or music shop and try some of these out. The Beyer 770/880 are great though. I hope this helps.
Evil Dali wrote:So I'm getting these Dt 770's and I have two options.
http://www.thomann.de/fi/beyerdynamic_dt770pro.htm
or
http://www.thomann.de/fi/beyerdynamic_dt_770_pro_le.htm
Only difference with these are the impedance values. What does it practically mean? The more expensive ones have 32 Ohms and cheaper ones have 250 Ohms.
How does this "impedance" affect to sound quality?
Does audio interface do the trick? I have RME Babyface, but is that enough to power those 250 ohm headphones?1stfiest wrote:Evil Dali wrote:So I'm getting these Dt 770's and I have two options.
http://www.thomann.de/fi/beyerdynamic_dt770pro.htm
or
http://www.thomann.de/fi/beyerdynamic_dt_770_pro_le.htm
Only difference with these are the impedance values. What does it practically mean? The more expensive ones have 32 Ohms and cheaper ones have 250 Ohms.
How does this "impedance" affect to sound quality?
A high Ohm impedance basically means you will need a headphone amplifier.
