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SKIN E wrote:

mtl6 wrote:LOL subbass and a long tailed 808 is definitely overkill. you will eat up all of your headroom with that combination and it won't sound good. here's a secret though... short tailed 808s and side chained bass sounds pretty dope

this one

People should take note from this guy, it is definitely challenging to try and create a specific genre each week and most certainly helps your skills and understanding different techniques..

thank you, I see you understand. Its a shame that people think that they need or should produce only one genre of music that they enjoy. I've been creating and making music in varies genres for over 9 years trying and experimenting with various ideas and concepts. My choice to create a Trap track was just as you said to challenge myself to do a genre that I have never done before and to prove that I can in fact due more then just one genre of EDM. After this track I will be doing another genre of EDM to continue pushing my abilities in production

Efrafa11 wrote:Bass is sort of wonky in the since it perfers to be a lone mono source.
Having multiple deep basses causes it to phase.
You could sidechain your subbass to duck whenever your 808 hits.
You can also tune and play your 808 like a sub in a sampler.

thank you for the advice on throwing the 808 in a sampler

extremesociety wrote:

hasezwei wrote:you want to push yourself as a sound engineer and artist

so you wanna make trap







i dont even

I mean, you can push yourself regardless of genre. Maybe he'll take it and do something new.

of course i could push myself regardless of genre, however by exploring and creating a trap track I gain the understanding and knowledge needed to be able to produce various genres of music. I picked Trap because I have listened to it and said "I'm gunna figure this shit out" After many hours of listening to Trap music, I've found that with the except of "trapstep" or whatever a lot of it is very thin sounding with just drums and a high freq patch with some rapping or vocal one shots on top. With the drop being lack luster but booming. To me I figured If I could produce a Trap track then I can use what I've learned from that to apply to other tracks that I produce. My favorite type of music/artists are people who think outside of the box and think purely artistically about their craft. They tend to have material with a variety of genres or a very experimentally feel. If people didn't do this then how would we have sub-genres of music.

KrashOverRide wrote:

SKIN E wrote:

mtl6 wrote:LOL subbass and a long tailed 808 is definitely overkill. you will eat up all of your headroom with that combination and it won't sound good. here's a secret though... short tailed 808s and side chained bass sounds pretty dope

this one

People should take note from this guy, it is definitely challenging to try and create a specific genre each week and most certainly helps your skills and understanding different techniques..

thank you, I see you understand. Its a shame that people think that they need or should produce only one genre of music that they enjoy. I've been creating and making music in varies genres for over 9 years trying and experimenting with various ideas and concepts. My choice to create a Trap track was just as you said to challenge myself to do a genre that I have never done before and to prove that I can in fact due more then just one genre of EDM. After this track I will be doing another genre of EDM to continue pushing my abilities in production

Or you could just not make a genre and ACTUALLY experiment and just make whatever damn music comes out

bassinine wrote:

Basic A wrote:The fuck is trap? How did it become known as trap? What kinda lame name for some shit is trap? At what point did it engulf footwerk, bmore house, and jersey club?

All questions that have cropped up in my head over the last week.

it's been called trap for a lllllonnnnggggg time, just recently caught on in the EDM world though. it's just southern rap.

150 bpm, heavy 808 subs following the kick and melody, lots of hard-style sounds - horns, heavy glide leads, super-saws riffs. minimal drops.

it's actually pretty bad ass, i hated on it too until i danced to it a few times and tried making it.

long time no speak though basic, you should try writing 150. it's bad ass because at half time it's basically dubstep, but go amen break and it sounds like dnb all the sudden. good middle ground tempo... and very little restriction in the genre.

+1. I wasn't a huge fan of it either, but I was and am a huge fan of 90s gangster rap. I love the lyrical word play of the east coast rappers but I loved the beats of the west coast. It is def a genre with few limitations and allows a lot of playing room to fucking around with different styles of edm that fit in the same tempo.

Houston Weather wrote:

bassinine wrote:

Basic A wrote:The fuck is trap? How did it become known as trap? What kinda lame name for some shit is trap? At what point did it engulf footwerk, bmore house, and jersey club?

All questions that have cropped up in my head over the last week.

it's been called trap for a lllllonnnnggggg time, just recently caught on in the EDM world though. it's just southern rap.

150 bpm, heavy 808 subs following the kick and melody, lots of hard-style sounds - horns, heavy glide leads, super-saws riffs. minimal drops.

it's actually pretty bad ass, i hated on it too until i danced to it a few times and tried making it.

long time no speak though basic, you should try writing 150. it's bad ass because at half time it's basically dubstep, but go amen break and it sounds like dnb all the sudden. good middle ground tempo... and very little restriction in the genre.

Trap isn't easy, although what trap is in the EDM scene is not necessarily what it is in the Southern Rap scene.

KrashOverRide wrote:

hasezwei wrote:you want to push yourself as a sound engineer and artist

so you wanna make trap







i dont even

for such a snide comment, i'll shall reply to you. I normal don't do trap music. So to push myself as an artist and sound engineer I am trying a genre I don't normal do, hence forth pushing me to create and make something I don't normally make. Thus widening my abilities, it's rather simple logic when you actually think.


I don't even...

i remember when i thought trap was a made up term to explain why everyone's biting lex luger's beats

then the trianglewitchhousetumblrsters got hold of it and everyone had the same snare and hi hat rushes and DAMN SON WHERE'D YOU FIND THIS suddenly skrillex omg rave sirens bwap bwap lazer sounds yeeeaooow boom boom so many youtube hits oh my god this is the future of music


i think somewhere in between that it was all a joke really but for some reason the ones who didn't get that got famous for it

you know what i shouldnt be mad at you

http://boi-1da.net/2011/09/24/official- ... -soundkit/

get these and maybe the lex luger drums, voila. make trap in minutes.

skimpi wrote:

KrashOverRide wrote:

SKIN E wrote:

mtl6 wrote:LOL subbass and a long tailed 808 is definitely overkill. you will eat up all of your headroom with that combination and it won't sound good. here's a secret though... short tailed 808s and side chained bass sounds pretty dope

this one

People should take note from this guy, it is definitely challenging to try and create a specific genre each week and most certainly helps your skills and understanding different techniques..

thank you, I see you understand. Its a shame that people think that they need or should produce only one genre of music that they enjoy. I've been creating and making music in varies genres for over 9 years trying and experimenting with various ideas and concepts. My choice to create a Trap track was just as you said to challenge myself to do a genre that I have never done before and to prove that I can in fact due more then just one genre of EDM. After this track I will be doing another genre of EDM to continue pushing my abilities in production

Or you could just not make a genre and ACTUALLY experiment and just make whatever damn music comes out

touche, however My working with in the basic limits of a genre one can then add their own flavor. Producing in a specific genre doesn't mean that you're stuck with doing the same old same old. By exploring other genres I can use what I've learned in making my own music. The point of making a trap track was not to be a trap artist but to prove to myself that I could in fact do it. By setting myself up in a genre I already have provide a basic skeleton for my own creativity to come through in. I can and do make my own music with out thinking of what genre I'm going to be creating. the point of creating a song in a specific genre to is to do something that you wouldn't normally do. For me that is doing a specific genre as I tend to just go with the flow and then decide later what genre I think it is. By experimenting with a genre one has not done, does that not push his/her abilities in their own music?

It's blowing my mind that so many felt the need to reply with such close mindedness towards attempting and trying new things out. I thought I left those angry and arrogant people behind when I decided to take on a new type of music making, especially one with a sub culture with such fundamentals of Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect. Instead of Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect as long as you like the same shit as me.

hasezwei wrote:you know what i shouldnt be mad at you

http://boi-1da.net/2011/09/24/official- ... -soundkit/

get these and maybe the lex luger drums, voila. make trap in minutes.

I fear to think what your RL must be like if your internet life consist of shitting on people for having different taste and appreciation for different types of music. Music is music, hating on a specific genre of music is like being a self hating homosexual. No matter how much you say you don't like it and try and fight it, in the end you're still gay.

"bla bla hater omg ur life must suck"

jesus... americans baffle me.

you mean i actually like the music and i'm just fighting against that? ridiculous.

and no, music does not equal music. i mean... jesus, there is so much more to music than just a couple sine waves at different volumes. how do people not get that?

have you maybe thought about how fake this whole "edm"-trap wave is, how it's just the most recent case of meaningless tranquilizing rave dj's exploiting subcultures by dumbing them down to a mass-compatible format ready to be the next hype?
i know that's the way of the world, things get hyped then commercialized and then they're over but for fucks sake i don't have to enjoy it and excuse me for not being someone who doesn't give a fuck about music so he just laps up everything whatever it might be.

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to


spot the difference?

anyway i was serious about the boi1da drums, as sort of an excuse for my ranting but looks like you had to keep me going
you should still try them there's some nice bits in there.

hmm.. my iPhone wasted this post.

oh, let me try!

one... Is an album cover.

The other is a rave?

Did I get it?

yea but which one is which?

it's pretty pathetic when people insult you for having standards and taste

edm trap is a dumbed down bro version of an interesting sound that misses what makes the original sound good

it's exactly the same as dubstep > brostep. interesting, innovative original sound, co-opted by the bro crowd and twisted into something terrible

glottis5 wrote:it's pretty pathetic when people insult you for having standards and taste

edm trap is a dumbed down bro version of an interesting sound that misses what makes the original sound good

it's exactly the same as dubstep > brostep. interesting, innovative original sound, co-opted by the bro crowd and twisted into something terrible

bro, you're never going to get anywhere with music if you hate everyone that listens to it. if you like the old trap sound... and trap is popular... why don't you fucking make it? and show the bro crowd what's up?

but no, whining about what other people like is probably more productive.

Commercial music is commercial for a reason, and it's not because people dont like it.
Music is subjective, and I dont see the point of some people in here when they come and have to diss others taste.
'sine waves at different volumes' argument was pretty stupid, after all burial's songs are some drumloops, a bit of sampled rain noise and some twisted vocals. Just because it's simple doesnt mean people shouldnt like it

you didnt understand my argument then
all sound can be replicated with a number of sinewaves at different pitch and volumes
every burial tune is just a bunch of information to be translated into waves of air, so it's pretty much the same thing as the newest bassnectar tune right? right?

no.

so the argument "music = music, either you like it or you're just pretending you don't" is bullshit.
there seems to be a sort of epidemic going on since the past couple years, one that causes people to have severe mental blockades when it comes to grasping the concept of disliking something.
maybe facebook is to blame?

and yeah of course commercial music is tolerated by the majority and bought by the biggest part of the music buying minority, however that says nothing about the quality of the music (which i wasn't even concerned with by the way)

look dude, music has certain cultural implications. i really really dislike great parts of modern capitalist culture, from politics to the way people interact with each other to the relationship my generation has with drugs and clubbing. and whenever a kind of music pops up that does not reflect that culture, that exists in the fringes below (see thats why it's called subculture) some dickhead dj or journalist has to expose it to the masses for their own personal fame, willfully allowing the pop culture machine to shred it apart leaving only a disjointed, perverted mess.

"have you maybe thought about how fake this whole "edm"-trap wave is, how it's just the most recent case of meaningless tranquilizing rave dj's exploiting subcultures by dumbing them down to a mass-compatible format ready to be the next hype?"

whether it is whether it isnt.. you come in here acting like a dick.. the guy is just trying to up his skills.. funny how your trying to defend yourself so badly right now "you didn't understand my argument then" come on mate are you shitting me