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Maxxan wrote:Seriously. Everyone telling you that "if someone wants to listen to your tune they'll turn it up" are, no offense here guys, speaking a load of horseshit.

See, the thing is that most people who are going to hear your tunes are going to be casual listeners. They're not going to know about mastering, dynamics etc. They're going to think your tune sounds worse and less professional than your friends. Your friends songs are going to go on their iPods, because guess what? ALL commercial music is loud. Go ahead and listen to any brostep/electro/whatever track. I dare you to find one that's not a compressed wall of sound.

You're not going to find it, because those producers realize this. And even if someone DID download your track, when I'm listening on my iPod on the way to work or at the gym or playing some tunes at a party or whatever I dont want to stop every two seconds and turn the volume up because some asshole left their track half the volume of all the other ones. Sure, if I do it sounds good but it's a fucking hassle and I don't want to be bothered with it.

This is how a normal music consumer thinks. If you want anyone to listen to it, you need to compress it. I'm not saying you gotta smash it to shit, but your track needs to be in the same ballpark as commercial producers and anyone telling you otherwise is a hipster asshole. If you don't believe me, just have a listen to any of your favorite tracks. I'm not saying limiting the shit outta everything sounds better, but you need to do it to some extent if you want to compete.

Trust me on this, kid.

Now, bring the hate bitches.

Gravehill wrote: Nah I agree with this, but if you're at this level where you're worrying about kids listening to your music on their ipods and stuff why not just send the tracks to a mastering engineer, its so cheap nowadays

Genevieve wrote:I don't mind the idea of having a 'soundcloud' mix you show everyone and a "properly mixed" track to play out or send to labels/DJs/etc.

Maxxan wrote:

Gravehill wrote: Nah I agree with this, but if you're at this level where you're worrying about kids listening to your music on their ipods and stuff why not just send the tracks to a mastering engineer, its so cheap nowadays

Fair point, I'm mostly mashing out bootlegs atm though so it feels a waste y'know. I did release the tune in my sig properly, that's all mixed by myself though. I'm sure people are gonna take the piss at me for this but EDM is easy to mix compared to proper stuff like rock/metal so you can get away with pretty shitty mastering. Mix it decently, smash the fuck out of your compressor, some harmonic exciters and you're good to go. Most kids won't notice the difference, not the normal listeners. The hipster tryhards are gonna rip on my tunes anyway so who cares haha. Might as well start learning too. I figure the blokes charging two bucks for a master can't really be that much better than I am, I'll bet half of that is all ozone magic haha.

didge wrote:

mthrfnk wrote:

didge wrote:If he's using a limiter to stop clipping...then his channel's aren't clipping, they're being limited. Simple really.

Try being more heavy handed with your compression to make it louder; you'll know when you've gone overboard. Similarly with your EQ. Getting everything out of the signal that you don't want (excessive low and high end) then make it as loud as you can (compression, distortion, short reverbs etc.)

Why limit a clipped signal instead of just turning it down

But that's two different processes that will sound different...? You might as well ask, why put a chorus on signal instead of a reverb?

didge wrote:

Genevieve wrote:I don't mind the idea of having a 'soundcloud' mix you show everyone and a "properly mixed" track to play out or send to labels/DJs/etc.

LOL. Just remembered why I never post on here. Pzzzzzz.

Sharmaji wrote:

Gravehill wrote:You should never be clipping any channel no matter what your approach to mixdown is

unless that clipping sounds fantastic. rules you learn on the internet don't count as "rules"

arktrix wrote:

Sharmaji wrote:

Gravehill wrote:You should never be clipping any channel no matter what your approach to mixdown is

unless that clipping sounds fantastic. rules you learn on the internet don't count as "rules"

This, some people are chatting massive dog eggs in this thread.

Gravehill wrote:

arktrix wrote:

Sharmaji wrote:

Gravehill wrote:You should never be clipping any channel no matter what your approach to mixdown is

unless that clipping sounds fantastic. rules you learn on the internet don't count as "rules"

This, some people are chatting massive dog eggs in this thread.