What If: Massive In Reaktor

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:08 am

Like I said, Lazerbass is the one you'd prefer.
http://co.native-instruments.com/index. ... chid=12037

2 osc version
http://co.native-instruments.com/index. ... chid=12049

It's not exactly the same as Massive but very similar.

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:54 pm

^ lol, Lazerbass is nothing like Massive! Not even close.

As for this thread - why would NI want to take one of their flagship synths and make it run loads slower in Reaktor? What would be the advantage? I'd think they're just going to work on new products instead.

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:23 pm

VirtualMark - why would you say that??
It's pretty damn close.
I'm not talking everything is the same place, same fx, etc.

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:25 pm

Electric_Head wrote:VirtualMark - why would you say that??
It's pretty damn close.
I'm not talking everything is the same place, same fx, etc.

Well for a start, LazerBass is monophonic, mainly designed for bass, Massive can be used for pretty much anything from evolving pads to robostep basses. LazerBass only has a handful of waveforms, Massive has tons of wavetables. Lazerbass has one oscillator, Massive has 5 if you include the Mod Osc and Noise. The filters are different - Massive has 2 with variable routing, plus you can add more with insert fx, LazerBass has 1. The routings are different, the modulation is different, the fx are different(LazerBass doesn't have any), tbh i struggle to find any reason why you'd say they're similar?

IMO Massive is 100x more versatile than LazerBass, i wouldn't consider them to be in the same league.

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:38 pm

Right, I was clearly stating in in an overly basic manner.
Apologies.

I see most things as similar from a synthesis standpoint.

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:49 pm

Electric_Head wrote:Right, I was clearly stating in in an overly basic manner.
Apologies.

I see most things as similar from a synthesis standpoint.

Lol fair enough no apologies necessary. I was just wondering how you saw them to be similar?

TBH i've had a good play with most of Reaktors synths and find most of them to be severely limited in one way or another. The only two that i'd consider to offer something worthwhile would be Razor and Prism. Razor can create some truly unique sounds that'd be hard to make in other synths, and Prism offers some physical modelling style synthesis which is good fun. And you can create some 'realistic' sounds with Prism, i was trying to recreate the blaster beam sound from Star Trek, it was originally made by hitting a metal block on some large strings.

I'm no Reaktor expert, but i think the problem with a lot of the factory synths it comes with are that they all share similar components. So the filters sound similar, the oscillators etc, it seems that it's a bit limited in this way. I don't really see any advantage in using Reaktor as it generally sounds worse and uses more resources than a dedicated third party synth.

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:49 pm

I have different experiences with Reaktor.
Metaphysical for one is amazing and sound very different.

I use it for loads more.
For each his own I guess.

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