The dubstep is dead facebook polemics

[Widowmaker]

haha there is no "hate" once again! lol i've come here frequently for years...

Just pretty much Biome said was completely took the wrong way.. Plus it just worries me that anything producers post on their facebooks is taken so literal and seriously.

Maybe he had a bad day and wanted to vent, we all do that! I've done it on here and on social media networks before, it's what makes us people.

I think a lot of fans/listeners/critics/whatever seem to forget sometimes that producers and DJ's and Artists in general are people too.

No disrespect to you hiricine because you were just looking to have a discussion. big ups.

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

but still its like an eagle telling retarted doves to fly faster

[lloydy]

but still its like an eagle telling retarted doves to fly faster

Bud are you sure your not eric cantona?Pretty much hit the nail on the head for me.So Bud are we like the retarded doves and biome the eagle?

[Hircine]

haha there is no "hate" once again! lol i've come here frequently for years...

Just pretty much Biome said was completely took the wrong way.. Plus it just worries me that anything producers post on their facebooks is taken so literal and seriously.

Maybe he had a bad day and wanted to vent, we all do that! I've done it on here and on social media networks before, it's what makes us people.

I think a lot of fans/listeners/critics/whatever seem to forget sometimes that producers and DJ's and Artists in general are people too.

No disrespect to you hiricine because you were just looking to have a discussion. big ups.

All good man, just wanted to sort this situation out and apologize. Things got a bit out of hand today

[fragments]

Fuck the....??? Bring the riddims n bass

[lloydy]

haha there is no "hate" once again! lol i've come here frequently for years...

Just pretty much Biome said was completely took the wrong way.. Plus it just worries me that anything producers post on their facebooks is taken so literal and seriously.

Maybe he had a bad day and wanted to vent, we all do that! I've done it on here and on social media networks before, it's what makes us people.

I think a lot of fans/listeners/critics/whatever seem to forget sometimes that producers and DJ's and Artists in general are people too.

No disrespect to you hiricine because you were just looking to have a discussion. big ups.

In all seriousness its is just a discussion,Biome is one of many producers that people on this board look up to.If messi was to come out and slag off the way young football players played football and then started banging on about players of old doing it better wouldn't there be an uproar in the football world?
All people in the public eye should remember who puts food on their plates beofre having an "off day" as you put it.

[Soul_Of_Seun]

It's a tired critique. No music will sound like the music you first came to love, grew up on, or what have you sheesh Louise. Remember the days when all we had to make music was a guitar made of raw buffalo hide, 'the sound of smacking a fat lady on the butt' kick, and a boulder snare? That was REAL music.

And I agree with Lloydy. People have to be careful with what they put onto Social Networking sites. If they're just venting, remember, this is the internet. There is a difference between venting to a couple friends or some random people you just met. What they say will remain in print for years. That's why artists have to be so careful with negative feedback, more so than positive feedback.

On the other hand if Biome is sincere, it's a bit vague. What does he mean by 90's music being more interesting than today's? There is a lot of music out today. More people on earth, more people on earth making music. SO many artists and styles plus we have the web. If you don't like one 140 guy's style, find the next guy's through youtube, last.fm, Pandora, a random blog whatever.

There is so much music out today I don't think saying "I don't like today's music" is tactful or excusable. Like was mentioned before, no reason to diss current music because you're bored which seems to be the case with Biome. I love Biome's tunes. He has the talent to just go off and do something else without the drama.

[Perej]

haha there is no "hate" once again! lol i've come here frequently for years...

Just pretty much Biome said was completely took the wrong way.. Plus it just worries me that anything producers post on their facebooks is taken so literal and seriously.

Maybe he had a bad day and wanted to vent, we all do that! I've done it on here and on social media networks before, it's what makes us people.

I think a lot of fans/listeners/critics/whatever seem to forget sometimes that producers and DJ's and Artists in general are people too.

No disrespect to you hiricine because you were just looking to have a discussion. big ups.

In all seriousness its is just a discussion,Biome is one of many producers that people on this board look up to.If messi was to come out and slag off the way young football players played football and then started banging on about players of old doing it better wouldn't there be an uproar in the football world?
All people in the public eye should remember who puts food on their plates beofre having an "off day" as you put it.

my god
DSF... such a bizarre forum.

didnt even know people still listened to biome ha. Next thing you'll be telling me that people still like Borgore

[lloydy]

Whats wrong with borgore?

[lloydy]

Utter filth lol

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

Utter filth lol

double time drumstep

[lloydy]

Perej the ultimate dsf troll!!!

[alphacat]

I mean, most dubstep songs are 140 bpm. Would it not be considered dubstep if it were a different tempo?

YES.

Or rather, I don't believe that dubstep has to be a certain tempo in order to be dubstep. I would say that if it got fast enough it'd often be functionally indistinguishable from DnB, but that's because the two are musical cousins with many shared references including each one to the other (like Loefah saying he started out wanting to make slower, more danceable & vibe-heavy jungle, or the current fad for ½step in DnB.)

When people first started applying the term "dubstep" to the fairly broad continuum of bass-heavy underground sounds coming out there was a wider range of tempos in the music being described. The lowest common denominator was the Bass/Space/Pace formula, but specific ratios of each were pretty wide open back then.

As it coalesced into a more 'stable,' 'defined,' or 'generic' sound (all of these descriptives are true in some measure) then the tyranny of 140 arose from DJ complicity for the same reasons that DJs like house music: it's much easier to mix something that you know is going to follow the same tempo or pattern as the tune that's on deck without thinking ahead. You can just reach in the bag and know that it's all... the same.

I disagree with the earlier statement that when it gets too much slower it becomes downtempo - you can't say that slower stuff by Scorn or Barry Hercules' sounds like downtempo, because it's heavier and not just slower. Downtempo tends to have a different vibe that's more about chillin' and relaxing, while aggressively heavy music does NOT have that effect usually. You could say there's a certain tension that belongs to dubstep that's not a desired goal in much downtempo music...

FIGHT
B.P.M.
FASCISM!

[eleven8]

People read way to deep into shit like this without actually reading properly.

[Ghost of Muttley]

but still its like an eagle telling retarted doves to fly faster

Bud are you sure your not eric cantona?Pretty much hit the nail on the head for me.So Bud are we like the retarded doves and biome the eagle?

That says more about your perception of yourself than it does about his awareness of what you're doing.

[Sharmaji]

double time drumstep

aka "plain old d&b"

[Hircine]

double time drumstep

aka drumdub

[wub]

This is all ImageLine's fault. If they hadn't made 140bpm the default tempo in FruityLoops, we wouldn't be in this mess.

[Electric_Head]

Make music.
Shutup and enjoy.

/thread

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

i have the same feeling about doves and eagles. both suck and make birdnoises