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Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:44 pm
by Doozle
rayman612 wrote:the people who made the movie

yes
Has that happened before

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:32 pm
by Lye_Form
Doozle wrote:
rayman612 wrote:the people who made the movie

yes
Has that happened before
Horror show?

Loefah/DMZ must have made literally dozens of pounds from that... american psycho producers should get a cut imo.

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:41 pm
by Figment
it would've been cool because he gave it for free.. but to be completely honest, it got re-released to a decent sized label (pun) that attracts enough mainstream attention/the right guys to push the tune to the level it got, that they really should've thought of clearing it, i've not heard the original sample, but it doesn't sound like he did a whole lot to it.. it's touchy, but sampling/copyright exists for a reason.

but yeah, i doubt they're actually going to get majorly fucked for it anyway.

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:09 pm
by paradigm_x
guardians gone to shit recently imho...

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:44 pm
by dickman69
Lye Form wrote:
Doozle wrote:
rayman612 wrote:the people who made the movie

yes
Has that happened before
Horror show?

Loefah/DMZ must have made literally dozens of pounds from that... american psycho producers should get a cut imo.
Hehe

Settle out of court for £108

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:00 pm
by Soul_Of_Seun
I can understand both perspectives. I'd want a little recognition for being a part (however small) of a global hit. But you can't be mad at Baauer for sampling is such a common and critical phenomenon for a lot of music. You can be sued even if you do clear a sample beforehand in some extreme cases like the Verve did for Bittersweet Symphony for using "too much" of a sample. Just pay them a small sum of cash and be done with it if you can.

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:08 pm
by NW_DUBAHOLIC
On another article I saw about this someone commented that he most likely found the sample in the sample pack "Philadelphyinz Moombahton Loops and Samples". If they are selling that as a royalty free sample pack, it seems they should be sued rather than Mad Decent.

Edit: Just did a little more research and the sample pack has been taken off of Beatport. On their Soundcloud they said they had to take it down because of copyright issues.

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:09 pm
by nowaysj
The 80's called, and uh...

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:41 am
by pembroke
Funny thing is, the wankers who overexposed him will never know the crock of shit they got him into hahaha

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:21 am
by incnic
hip hop ibvneted samping in the 80's when kool hgerc mik used to block party danny glovr m8

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:42 am
by Hircine
roland should sue baauer

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:53 pm
by hasezwei
Hircine wrote:roland should sue baauer

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:49 am
by pembroke
hasezwei wrote:
Hircine wrote:roland should sue everybody

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:24 am
by Samuel_L_Damnson
Every producer ever has used a roland drum sample of some sort right?

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:23 pm
by pete_bubonic
That was a decent historical article I thought. Feels like the sensationalist headline and skew was added on for traffic but the actual content was well researched and relatively interesting.

Had Snake Eater become a worldwide phenomenon I'm sure we would have 1/ partied till we dropped and 2/ shit our pans about Kojima coming to kick up back doors in. But just like the article suggests, it's the breakout from the the underground, the freak success into mainstream knowledge that's caused problems. Though I'm sure it could all be settled with tossing the performers ten grand a piece, shit one of them even says, 'hey that's sampling, fair game!'.

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:03 pm
by Words
has it been mentioned that Jayson Musson is the ART THOUGHTZ guy

his vids rule


Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:37 pm
by ninjadog
nowaysj wrote:
JizzMan wrote:tbh i dont get why people would wanna sue you over a 2-second drum sample like how it says in the article. Sure you might get money, but doesnt that make you feel incredibly selfish as an artist? I wouldnt push charges against something like that lol
If I could sue you for 200k for no reason, I would. I could use the cash.
How American of you.

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:03 pm
by Soiree
there is no way copyright infringement will be an issue in the generation after next.
those laws were imposed pryer to the internet, which has changed virtually every aspect of our entire "civilized" culture on planet earth.

this movie is the LAW and not another word uttered until all have seen...


ohh wub, I've missed U :mrgreen:

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:41 am
by pete_bubonic
Words wrote:has it been mentioned that Jayson Musson is the ART THOUGHTZ guy

his vids rule

That's jokes, gonna hunt the rest of this guys videos.

Re: Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:37 am
by collige
pete bubonic wrote:That was a decent historical article I thought. Feels like the sensationalist headline and skew was added on for traffic but the actual content was well researched and relatively interesting.

Had Snake Eater become a worldwide phenomenon I'm sure we would have 1/ partied till we dropped and 2/ shit our pans about Kojima coming to kick up back doors in. But just like the article suggests, it's the breakout from the the underground, the freak success into mainstream knowledge that's caused problems. Though I'm sure it could all be settled with tossing the performers ten grand a piece, shit one of them even says, 'hey that's sampling, fair game!'.
So was the sample for Snake Eater just completely uncleared? Couldn't something so brazen have gotten you into some pretty deep shit? I'm unclear how copyright law works in the UK with regards to sampling.