when u buy a tune do u ask permission before playing out?

theonelikepaul · Post by **theonelikepaul** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:55 pm

surr wrote:When I organised a drum&bass party some time ago in Belgium, I (in my role of organiser) had to pay the Sabam (i.e. the Belgian Society of Authors, Composers and Publishers) and provide them with the playlist of every DJ. The DJ's didn't have to pay for anything.

Also, as Sand Leaper said, make sure that all your tunes are acquired legally. I've heard many stories of guys being busted for playing illegal mp3's using e.g. Serato Scratch

Yeah I'm talking about 12" vinyl which has been released and I have purchased in a shop.

I wonder how many clubs over here are providing track info to the mcps-prs.

subzer · Post by **subzer** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:19 pm

legaly the club/veneu has to pay for the music that is played. like the radio pays for playing a track, a shop pays for having music and a pub pays even if its just background music!

if you buy a record you pay for private use only, allowing you to copy asmany times as you want as long it stay for private use (backup/ car or whatever).
when you play it out of your private situation officially have to pay. because you only paid for private use.

i know there is in NL a system called fingerprinting. this system is a hughe database and reconizes tracks as they getting played on the radio, in order to get the ones played to get the money (and not only the most well known producers, more or less ad random)
this system is now almost ready for use at big festivals in the netherlands... there has been experimented with playlists, but the guys only filled out the recors of thereselfs and friends, not really fair.

thinking · Post by **thinking** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:21 pm

gravious wrote:
fliPPo wrote:another related question would be, do any DJ's report their playlists to the clubs so that the royaltie fees the venues pay end up going to relevant artists?
In theory I'm pretty sure you are supposed to. And the venues should be registered with the relevant royalties collecting bodies. In practice I think this very rarely happens however. I've certainly never come across anyone whose had to do this.

absolutely true, and any licensed venue you play at will be 'registered' with the right authority for collecting royalties i.e. PRS - it's where a fair chunk of all license fees go. In theory all DJs should submit a playlist after their set, which the club should forward to the PRS - a big list of all tracks played is compiled and all the license money split accordingly.

pdomino · Post by **pdomino** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:49 pm

yaftavalicensetiplaydemkindadubplateyakno !

thesynthesist · Post by **thesynthesist** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:30 pm

D Man wrote:OMG are u really serious!!!!! am i awake and reading this question properly?

would u ask 50 cent personally to play his tunes in a club? NO, the same applies here, and the legal shit on the labels is for the likes of big time record companies putting the tune on mix cds i.e a ministry of sound dubstep cd

anyway

lol

Fuck 50 cent.

d_three · Post by **d_three** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:37 pm

"'Ya Ave a License Fah Dem Dubz'....?"

baddie · Post by **baddie** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:43 am

thesynthesist wrote:
D Man wrote:OMG are u really serious!!!!! am i awake and reading this question properly?

would u ask 50 cent personally to play his tunes in a club? NO, the same applies here, and the legal shit on the labels is for the likes of big time record companies putting the tune on mix cds i.e a ministry of sound dubstep cd

anyway

lol
Fuck 50 cent.

there's no need to be mean...

chamclowder · Post by **chamclowder** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:40 am

I'm gonna refrain for showing my initial reaction when I first read the question of theee thread.... But, what totally gets me is when people choose to just d/l released tunes from some p2p to use to play out for gigs + somehow seem to think that it's okay.... I am not sure if even that many people would dare to do that.... But, I've come across only one individual who says thats what he does sometimes.... I hope that guy realize his lesson by now.... This was a few years back when I was told of this....

theonelikepaul · Post by **theonelikepaul** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:33 am

chamclowder wrote:I'm gonna refrain for showing my initial reaction when I first read the question of theee thread.... But, what totally gets me is when people choose to just d/l released tunes from some p2p to use to play out for gigs + somehow seem to think that it's okay.... I am not sure if even that many people would dare to do that.... But, I've come across only one individual who says thats what he does sometimes.... I hope that guy realize his lesson by now.... This was a few years back when I was told of this....

Jeez, it was just a question born out of respect for the artists I love.. It was just that line "Public performance prohibited" that threw me. Just wanted to check first innit.

If theres one thing we have established in this thread it is that I am a total noob...

Haha, lol at the p2p issue, that is bare cheek.

duck · Post by **duck** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:44 pm

gravious wrote:
In theory I'm pretty sure you are supposed to. And the venues should be registered with the relevant royalties collecting bodies. In practice I think this very rarely happens however. I've certainly never come across anyone whose had to do this.

I've been handed PRS sheets to fill out setlists at festivals, but that's the only time.

d man · Post by **d man** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:57 pm

lol coz i play or like 50 cent, synthesist, please stop bein a waste!!!!

when u buy a tune do u ask permission before playing out?

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