Preventing Theft

Mr_Frost · Post by **Mr_Frost** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:53 pm

Dhinojosa94 wrote:
Mr_Frost wrote:even if you give them out at a lower bitrate anyone can just convert them to wav and start using them at the club. i would hold on to what you have.
you telling me i can rip any song off youtube and convert it to wav and itll be pristine?

pretty much. you might need to compress a little.

elyhess · Post by **elyhess** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:10 pm

i would just put a watermark over it XD

Mason · Post by **Mason** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:10 pm

i've learnt alot from this thread cheers guys

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:34 pm

EliteLennon117 wrote:m8 just tell them to get their 43 bps yourtube rips like everybody else

This is a good idea for loads of reasons:

1> You give out your Youtube link / addy and people listen to your tunes online. Then on each video you can provide your sales pitch and links to your soundcloud / website / agent etc.

Your sales pitch might read something like this:

If you love these sounds, hire me to play at your party.

Contact me at blahblahblah@partydj.com or visit my website and use the booking form at partydj.com/bookings.

2> People can share your link more easily when they're already on the page. Build a simple wordpress site (for free) and add a Facebook 'Like' button plugin so your name gets spread.

3> You can add visuals from your parties, video's, photo's, flyers, sexy women on the beach, sunsets etc etc (and all the usual Youtube music video jazz lol). This helps engage people with your brand + hype people up to attend your gigs. Check out videos of Creamfields or Dance Valley for examples.

4> You then have a single place where people can check back regularly for your latest mix meaning you only need to promote one link on you business card. (Don't have a card? Get busy in MS Word, buy some quality print paper and print 'em yourself. Just be careful to cut them neatly.)

5> With people visiting your Youtube channel / Soundcloud / website, you can post 'previews' mixes of upcoming gigs with interviews of the venue owners, vox pops of revellers from previous parties, vox pops of punters getting hyped for the upcoming party etc etc.

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:41 pm

Regarding theft issues:

1> If you keep making new refixes, you'll remain ahead of the pack. It's up to you to work on your craft and improve your art. Post your older mixes if you must, with a watermark and never playing the full tunes (as mentioned earlier in this thread).

2> If you're bringing in the punters, your 'brand name' isn't 'copyable', even if your competing DJ's are better DJ's technically or play the same tunes.

3> If you're getting bookings now, you're already the 'go to' DJ. People don't like change meaning that once they are familiar with how you work with them, they'll be keen simply to keep their life simple and work with who they know instead of risking everything and booking unknowns who could be shit.

The bottom line is this.

Pull in the punters and you'll keep getting bookings. Give away too much for free and people will have less reason to pay to hear you play live.

ezza · Post by **ezza** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:01 pm

op is everything wrong with music ffs or a good troll

erratech · Post by **erratech** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:05 pm

Agent 47 wrote:op is everything wrong with music ffs or a good troll

Come talk to me when you are a dj in the high end rich people club scene. Also where are your remixes smartiepants?

Sexual_Chocolate · Post by **Sexual_Chocolate** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:18 pm

Dhinojosa94 wrote:
Mr_Frost wrote:even if you give them out at a lower bitrate anyone can just convert them to wav and start using them at the club. i would hold on to what you have.
you telling me i can rip any song off youtube and convert it to wav and itll be pristine?

mekha · Post by **mekha** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:01 am

Best thread ever.

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:17 am

Production forum ...... FUCK YEH!!!!!

syrup · Post by **syrup** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:19 am

erratech wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:op is everything wrong with music ffs or a good troll
Come talk to me when you are a dj in the high end rich people club scene. Also where are your remixes smartiepants?

test_recordings · Post by **test_recordings** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:44 am

johney wrote:
erratech wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:op is everything wrong with music ffs or a good troll
Come talk to me when you are a dj in the high end rich people club scene. Also where are your remixes smartiepants?

Money obviously doesn't buy sense.

Why don't you just DJ house for posh pretension?

drake89 · Post by **drake89** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:48 pm

Mr_Frost wrote:even if you give them out at a lower bitrate anyone can just convert them to wav and start using them at the club. i would hold on to what you have.

lloydy · Post by **lloydy** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:02 pm

Best thread this year so far,10/10 for comedy!!!People say the production forum is a joke but i just can't see why

ezza · Post by **ezza** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:06 pm

It's fucking scary b2b funny/sad

im doing a music degree and it's like the real life version

maybe the heads are in the wrong tho... and music actually is about brick walling, top 10 remixes and making hand gestures while you press play on your virtual dj to people in fake Armani

webstarr · Post by **webstarr** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:36 pm

Dhinojosa94 wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:What I'd do is record the very best hour long mix you can do containing only your refixes, then chop the mix in to separate tracks and put it online as a zip of separate 192kbps MP3s, labeled correctly and with artwork, playlist, contact details, etc.

edit: but really, the pop artists you've re-fixed were probably even more concerned about theft than you are, and look what happened.
Hows that different than just bouncing out the projects in 192kbps? And as far as the pop artist being concerned, well im not making profit out of it, i just dont want other djs to have them since those remixes plus my originals have been landing me gigs recently

Surely if they're landing you gigs then you are profiting from it.

test_recordings · Post by **test_recordings** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:08 am

webstarr wrote:
Dhinojosa94 wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:What I'd do is record the very best hour long mix you can do containing only your refixes, then chop the mix in to separate tracks and put it online as a zip of separate 192kbps MP3s, labeled correctly and with artwork, playlist, contact details, etc.

edit: but really, the pop artists you've re-fixed were probably even more concerned about theft than you are, and look what happened.
Hows that different than just bouncing out the projects in 192kbps? And as far as the pop artist being concerned, well im not making profit out of it, i just dont want other djs to have them since those remixes plus my originals have been landing me gigs recently
Surely if they're landing you gigs then you are profiting from it.

Conundrum.

By purchasing a track that makes you able to play it, legally, yeah?

How about remixing it then playing it out? Do you get creative license when you buy it for the right to play it?

Letting other people download illegally is obviously not allowed, legally.

Mr_Frost · Post by **Mr_Frost** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:29 am

webstarr wrote:
Dhinojosa94 wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:What I'd do is record the very best hour long mix you can do containing only your refixes, then chop the mix in to separate tracks and put it online as a zip of separate 192kbps MP3s, labeled correctly and with artwork, playlist, contact details, etc.

edit: but really, the pop artists you've re-fixed were probably even more concerned about theft than you are, and look what happened.
Hows that different than just bouncing out the projects in 192kbps? And as far as the pop artist being concerned, well im not making profit out of it, i just dont want other djs to have them since those remixes plus my originals have been landing me gigs recently
Surely if they're landing you gigs then you are profiting from it.

it's tough paying the rent with free water and chips.

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