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Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:49 am
by Pistonsbeneath
ridiculous, the message from these examples is clear.......20 years????
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:59 am
by bennyfroobs
rayman612 wrote:
B/c only in america do ppl get arrested based off facebook posts...
Oh wait that happened in the uk 1st
oh ye uk popo are spastics too, no debate there m8 lol
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 10:04 am
by Pistonsbeneath
Some kid got jailed here for a joke on twitter regarding an abducted child...you cannot make a joke anymore, whenever I see someone get offended by a joke's subject matter (unless they just think its unfunny) I call them out on it as it's a slippery slope...either everything is satire or nothing is as it could offend someone.
Had to delete someone from facebook recently due to their relentless tunnel vision on a certain subject and their correlation that laughing at a dark joke about it made you as bad as people that committed the said act on another person, frustrating trying to explain the principle of it to these people. It doesn't matter HOW offensive it might be to someone...there isn't a sliding scale where suddenly it becomes universally unacceptable everythings equal as everything is subjective.
Anyway noone should ever be locked up for posting on facebook
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:24 pm
by Phase Down
I don't understand, if I wrote down on a piece of paper "I am going to kill everyone in the white house tomorrow at 6pm" does this mean I can be arrested?
I will let you guys know if I get the CIA on my door because of this post..
absolutely ridiculous, this planet is full of mongs and tards
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:28 pm
by wub
Phase Down wrote:I don't understand, if I wrote down on a piece of paper "I am going to kill everyone in the white house tomorrow at 6pm" does this mean I can be arrested?
Depends who sees the bit of paper.
Although in the context of this example, if you wanted to find out, make a public threat to detonate an explosive device at your closest airport on Facebook and Twitter and see what happens.
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:45 pm
by magma
#twitterjoketrial
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:50 pm
by Mason
Phase Down wrote: "I am going to kill everyone in the white house tomorrow at 6pm"
best delete that before deadly habit sees it bro
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:52 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
I wonder if you spelt it like White Haus they would still be able to arrest you...or Whit House
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:53 pm
by Phase Down
wub wrote:Phase Down wrote:I don't understand, if I wrote down on a piece of paper "I am going to kill everyone in the white house tomorrow at 6pm" does this mean I can be arrested?
Depends who sees the bit of paper.
Although in the context of this example, if you wanted to find out, make a public threat to detonate an explosive device at your closest airport on Facebook and Twitter and see what happens.
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:53 pm
by volcanogeorge
someone hurry up and id the headphones pls
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:55 pm
by magma
Pistonsbeneath wrote:I wonder if you spelt it like White Haus they would still be able to arrest you...or Whit House
All previously convicted criminals the world-over have had letter-perfect spelling, so the legal profession would be completely stumped by this. Game changer.
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:54 pm
by ehbes
volcanogeorge wrote:someone hurry up and id the headphones pls
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:27 pm
by hugh
This is just opening the door towards fascist police surveillance of everything we say and do. Fuck this.
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:32 pm
by Samuel_L_Damnson
Int there a thing that says you cant be arrested for what you say in lyrics? Like so many rappers basically confess to being crack dealers and shooting people upside the head and dont get done.
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:00 pm
by alphacat
kani wrote:Find myself thinking of Baudrillard's 'Simulacra and Simulations' frequently..
"For example: it would be interesting to see whether the repressive apparatus would not react more violently to a simulated holdup than to a real holdup. Because the latter does nothing but disturb the order of things, the right to property, whereas the former attacks the reality principle itself. Transgression and violence are less serious because they only contest the distribution of the real. Simulation is infinitely more dangerous because it always leaves open to supposition that, above and beyond its object, law and order themselves might be nothing but simulation."
Holy christ, there's another nerd here who's read Baudrillard?
This plays into the whole idea of imposition of police state
not by force of arms (because real people obviously vastly outnumber real police, and in America are arguably better armed than many police departments) but rather by establishing the all-pervasive idea through Cop TV Show Culture that you can be one of three things: a good guy (cop/law enforcer) a bad guy (anyone opposing a cop/law enforcer) or a victim (anyone not in the first 2 categories.)
I mean, isn't it strange what a disproportionate number of shows, movies, and video games perpetuate this reduced role set (where you can be a cop, soldier, mercenary, criminal)- considering how few people IRL are actually cops/soldiers/mercs/hoods, percentage-wise? Why do we spend so much time watching dramas about guys with guns arbitrating with violence instead of other strategies?
It's because this worldview is conducive to encouraging 'the meek' (i.e. the rest of us) to stay in line unless we want to get checked. It's as simple as that.
But this strategy has also backfired somewhat - gangsta culture being an obvious example, where the population being characterized as being bad simply doesn't give a fuck and even come to embrace it just because they're used to it already, and there's still more value in having a well-defined collective role (so-called ghetto culture) than in not having much of one (white middle class culture.)
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Anyways, back to the OP:
Yes, this is absolutely an example of someone being made an example of. There have been times and places, historically, where enforcement of such standards has become lax. This is not that time or place. People are eager to hand over their liberties for assurances of assurance, not even safety.
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 10:21 pm
by Devry_Kaneda
People are pretty afraid over here, it would seem.
On a related note, my high-schooler brother told me about a pretty similar even that happened at his school a month back or so. Apparently this new boy, recently emigrated from China, I believe, was arrested for making a singular joke about "blowing up" the school. Now, bear in mind that not only was this young man freshly transplanted from an entirely different culture, but also still attempting to learn and grasp the English language!
Some girls who sat near him, overheard this insensitive, but not obviously malicious joke and decided to report him.
Instead of a rational course events, where he would be asked if this were a serious threat and probably lectured about why it's a bad idea to make jokes like that, he was immediately taken down to the police station, and held on a small bail.
Not sure what became of the event, but really speaks to the climate over here.
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 10:35 pm
by alphacat
Devry[Kaneda] wrote:Not sure what became of the event, but really speaks to the climate over here.
America in a nutshell right now:
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 10:58 pm
by Devry_Kaneda
how does he shoot that without blowing his shoulder 50 feet back?
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:30 am
by EliteLennon117
I h8 guns so much. peace and love m8s.
Re: Student faces 20 years in prison for Facebook messages
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:22 am
by BonerJams04
Sinestepper wrote:Int there a thing that says you cant be arrested for what you say in lyrics? Like so many rappers basically confess to being crack dealers and shooting people upside the head and dont get done.
