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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by NiGHTS_24 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:58 pm

topmo3 wrote:depressing might be the wrong word but i was a bit put off by all the very graphic violence. dun kno it just felt so unnecessarry. at the start of the film i had big expectations because the opening sequence where the main guy works as a getaway driver was very intensive and well directed.. i've only seen it once but i think the rest of the movie was ok as well up until the scene at the hotel with all the gore.

the rest of the movie kinda went over my head and i just felt that the violence was even a bit forced and that the filmmakers just wanted to show off with it entirely forgetting about the movie plot. yeah i like some very violent movies, eastern promises for example but this particular film i didn't get anything out of

For me the violence was a problem and i do think in some parts the violence was essential for the film. Like the hotel scene and the elevator scene aswell but again its just my personal opinion. From what i have read is that only god forgives is a lot more brutal and darker.

I have'nt seen place beyond but soundtrack is really good.

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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by ezza » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:01 pm

yesyes

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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by Molzie » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:24 pm

Was I the only one who thought this was shit. Couldn't fault the acting but I wasn't a fan of how the storyline changed. It didn't seem to flow. I wish it was more about gosling and the the bank robberies.

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Post by Gurnumsbug » Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:23 am

Molzie wrote:Was I the only one who thought this was shit. Couldn't fault the acting but I wasn't a fan of how the storyline changed. It didn't seem to flow. I wish it was more about gosling and the the bank robberies.
This is honestly what I thought the film was about..

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But killing Gosling off within 50min was a bummer for me.. Not because I just wanted Gosling onscreen, but I feel like they could've put more into it. Either way I thought the film was great. A little slow at times, but really good!

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Post by deadly_habit » Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:46 am

I loved that it wasn't just that, the 3 different acts and how they showed the characters was great.

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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by TopManLurka » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:41 am

are we meant to sympathize with gosling come the end of the film? guy was a tnuc.

good film but didn't rate the sudden fast-forwards in the plot.

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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by TopManLurka » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:42 am

gwa wrote:was really stoned when i watched it and found the bank robberies hard to stomach.
lool the bank scenes were fuckin jokes.

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Post by deadly_habit » Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:53 am

TopManLurka wrote:are we meant to sympathize with gosling come the end of the film? guy was a tnuc.

good film but didn't rate the sudden fast-forwards in the plot.
No I don't think you're meant to sympathize with him or Cooper's character, but rather his son.
It's a very shades of gray movie with morality and there really is no hero or villains, it's just a good drama.

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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by ghandi » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:11 am

Thought they could have made more effort to make the characters that appear in
both stories look older in the second part. Fifteen years later and Gosling's partner in crime
hadn't aged a day despite being a drunk.
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Post by 8022 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:11 pm

Excellent film, was expecting a Drive mk II with motorbikes but the story, cinematography and soundtrack was next level.
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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by EliteLennon117 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:14 am

TopManLurka wrote:
gwa wrote:was really stoned when i watched it and found the bank robberies hard to stomach.
lool the bank scenes were fuckin jokes.
haha his voiced cracked every other sentence. good movie though.
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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by wolf89 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:17 pm

topmo3 wrote:depressing might be the wrong word but i was a bit put off by all the very graphic violence. dun kno it just felt so unnecessarry. at the start of the film i had big expectations because the opening sequence where the main guy works as a getaway driver was very intensive and well directed.. i've only seen it once but i think the rest of the movie was ok as well up until the scene at the hotel with all the gore.

the rest of the movie kinda went over my head and i just felt that the violence was even a bit forced and that the filmmakers just wanted to show off with it entirely forgetting about the movie plot. yeah i like some very violent movies, eastern promises for example but this particular film i didn't get anything out of
The violence in drive was done incredibly well. It was really well thought out and used for a clear purpose within the telling of the story. Not to mention it was also a big part in the portrayal of the long running tradition of the righteous and loved but ultimately extremely violent with a questionable past ideal of the American hero/anti hero which is something the film is clearly trying to portray. There's even an element of the overly extreme portrayals of romance, good/evil and justice of old fairytales displayed within normal modern life too.

Plus the violence itself is handled in a way to make it effective in its execution with regards to the directors intentions. It's not there to purely shock in the way that a poorly written horror makes use of violence where it's essentially a gag real of nasty scenes for no reason. I mean violence in a film is largely about the tone and the run up to the act. Same as sex within film. The actual climatic result is just splooge or someone dying or whatever. It's how it's used that makes it's impact. The lift scene is a great example. The slow kiss with the beautiful lighting of the scene suddenly hurtling into the pure and graphic bluntly realistic kill is hugely effective in delivering information and emotional impact to the audience in regards to Gosling's character and the ideas of the film over all.

Strip club scene as well goes straight in for the no bullshit angle. It's like a Clint Eastwood's Man With No Name type thing which again throws up ideas about what people associate with the ideal of an American hero. Plus it's a throwback to the gritty grindhouse style vigilante movie style violence (like James Glickenhaus' The Exterminator for example) which fits with the tone and the way a lot of the non-love scene parts within the movie were shot and again is an excellent style of movie to reference when building a character like Gosling's in this film. The film has a strong connection to the type of places and people that would appear in these sorts of films too which fits with a lot of the 1980s stylistic traits peppered throughout the film also. It wouldn't make sense without these violent scenes to otherwise mirror in certain ways movies that came before it. Every scene has it's purpose with regards to how the violence is portrayed. It's not just one dimensional. It varies from shock tactics, to pure passionate violence to even non caring psychopathic and almost fetish like use of knives displayed in the last scene with Bryan Cranston in.

I mean the film overall has a huge pool of film styles that it references for effect. There's even horror style imagery towards the end when he's in the mask going after Perlman's character.

I think overall it's just you beig overly sensitive to the violence rather than it being unnecessary.

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Post by BonerJams04 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:39 am

the video stores around here arent carrying this yet. pissed.
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Post by travis_baker » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:40 am

pirate bay?

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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by Soulstep » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:51 am

deadly habit wrote:
TopManLurka wrote:are we meant to sympathize with gosling come the end of the film? guy was a tnuc.

good film but didn't rate the sudden fast-forwards in the plot.
No I don't think you're meant to sympathize with him or Cooper's character, but rather his son.
It's a very shades of gray movie with morality and there really is no hero or villains, it's just a good drama.

the only one i could sympathize with is Kofi, he raised boy but it wasn't enough ...par

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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:54 am

Soulstep wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
TopManLurka wrote:are we meant to sympathize with gosling come the end of the film? guy was a tnuc.

good film but didn't rate the sudden fast-forwards in the plot.
No I don't think you're meant to sympathize with him or Cooper's character, but rather his son.
It's a very shades of gray movie with morality and there really is no hero or villains, it's just a good drama.

the only one i could sympathize with is Kofi, he raised boy but it wasn't enough ...par
and he chatted shit and got banged...in his own gaf.
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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by EliteLennon117 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:26 pm

black father. mexican mother. white son.
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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by deadly_habit » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:02 pm

EliteLennon117 wrote:black father. mexican mother. white son.
It's every politically correct extreme liberals dream family, though they do need some gays.
I just wish we got well shot, well acted, and great story dramas like this and There Will Be Blood more often.

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Re: place beyond the pines

Post by Laszlo » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:30 pm

This film was pretty good but ultimately unremarkable.

Pretty good in comparison to the past decade of western cinema - Ultimately unremarkable in comparison to the rest of cinema ever made anywhere.

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