The changing of "stop and search" laws in the UK

[test_recordings]

The point of this is to just randomly harassing people as they are now, all you'd need to do is just print the Home Office guidelines and quote them to prove the point. OP article even says stop and search activity can be reduced without affecting either arrest or crime rates as well as not pissing so many people off.

[gwa]

test i've lived on the street next to the one in question and never had trouble in 15 years. guess you gotta have your wits about you.

Or just be lucky!

what on earth do you do when you go down stonegate road?

[MPathy]

only got stopped once in manchester and that was because I'd actually done something 'wrong.'

London is a bit different, met are just blatant stnuc (though I also think theyre under a hell of alot more pressure than the rest of the country to meet numbers).

and of course I'm gonna give them my name if its a minor thing, dunno about you lot but I really cba with being pulled down the station for fuck all, rather just act all sweet and with any luck get to walk away in 15 mins. I just co-operate now, its fucking seriously cringey when you see these brew crew tramps saying 'I AM A SOVEREIGN FREEMAN OF BRITAIN MAGNA CARTA YOU ARE A POLICEMAN NOT A POLICE OVERSEER,' like the police give a fuck. 'Oh wow *checks ID* err.. chemical dave, I see you are a true scholar in archaic law and as such I'm not gonna nick you.'

fuck saying anyting else though, just smile.

That there is the problem though. Why should you feel you have to give all your details to someone or be faced with a few hours in a cell? You shouldn't...... The bottom line is that you should be able to go about your business without being harassed by police.

[Kochari]

Is it not right that you don't have to give your name unless a serious crime has been committed in the area?

Last time I tried that I was handcuffed and spent the night in the cells

[Electric_Head]

For cheese right?

[Mason]

That there is the problem though. Why should you feel you have to give all your details to someone or be faced with a few hours in a cell? You shouldn't...... The bottom line is that you should be able to go about your business without being harassed by police.

you shouldn't but thats irrelevant, you have to. I'm happy that by law i have to give the police my details if it means that the law will help catch even one real criminal, they already have my dna and fingerprints lol. Also for years in my shitty village i would get stopped by the police and searched to the point where if they had searched me again and found nothing i could of claimed harassment apparently. This of course pissed me off but then i realised that most of the time i had actually had drugs on me in my boxers or a nearby bush and they were right to search me.

[MPathy]

That there is the problem though. Why should you feel you have to give all your details to someone or be faced with a few hours in a cell? You shouldn't...... The bottom line is that you should be able to go about your business without being harassed by police.

you shouldn't but thats irrelevant, you have to. I'm happy that by law i have to give the police my details if it means that the law will help catch even one real criminal, they already have my dna and fingerprints lol. Also for years in my shitty village i would get stopped by the police and searched to the point where if they had searched me again and found nothing i could of claimed harassment apparently. This of course pissed me off but then i realised that most of the time i had actually had drugs on me in my boxers or a nearby bush and they were right to search me.

The thing is though is that "real" criminals don't get caught through stop and searches. It's usually just teenagers with 10 draws.... A complete waste of resources imo.

[Forum]

Is it not right that you don't have to give your name unless a serious crime has been committed in the area?

Last time I tried that I was handcuffed and spent the night in the cells

I'm surprised I havnt seen you on road wars yet

[test_recordings]

That there is the problem though. Why should you feel you have to give all your details to someone or be faced with a few hours in a cell? You shouldn't...... The bottom line is that you should be able to go about your business without being harassed by police.

you shouldn't but thats irrelevant, you have to. I'm happy that by law i have to give the police my details if it means that the law will help catch even one real criminal, they already have my dna and fingerprints lol. Also for years in my shitty village i would get stopped by the police and searched to the point where if they had searched me again and found nothing i could of claimed harassment apparently. This of course pissed me off but then i realised that most of the time i had actually had drugs on me in my boxers or a nearby bush and they were right to search me.

It's not the law that you have to give your details though, it's the law that you can CHOOSE to give them.

test i've lived on the street next to the one in question and never had trouble in 15 years. guess you gotta have your wits about you.

Or just be lucky!

what on earth do you do when you go down stonegate road?

Nothing, I'm just walking towards Meanwood, that's what pisses me off

[Genevieve]

That there is the problem though. Why should you feel you have to give all your details to someone or be faced with a few hours in a cell? You shouldn't...... The bottom line is that you should be able to go about your business without being harassed by police.

you shouldn't but thats irrelevant, you have to. I'm happy that by law i have to give the police my details if it means that the law will help catch even one real criminal, they already have my dna and fingerprints lol. Also for years in my shitty village i would get stopped by the police and searched to the point where if they had searched me again and found nothing i could of claimed harassment apparently. This of course pissed me off but then i realised that most of the time i had actually had drugs on me in my boxers or a nearby bush and they were right to search me.

Not in the UK though.

[Kochari]

Is it not right that you don't have to give your name unless a serious crime has been committed in the area?

Last time I tried that I was handcuffed and spent the night in the cells

I'm surprised I havnt seen you on road wars yet

It's cus I'm always friendly and polite in my interactions with uniformed thugs

[test_recordings]

That there is the problem though. Why should you feel you have to give all your details to someone or be faced with a few hours in a cell? You shouldn't...... The bottom line is that you should be able to go about your business without being harassed by police.

you shouldn't but thats irrelevant, you have to. I'm happy that by law i have to give the police my details if it means that the law will help catch even one real criminal, they already have my dna and fingerprints lol. Also for years in my shitty village i would get stopped by the police and searched to the point where if they had searched me again and found nothing i could of claimed harassment apparently. This of course pissed me off but then i realised that most of the time i had actually had drugs on me in my boxers or a nearby bush and they were right to search me.

Not in the UK though.

The UK has quotas too, Tony Blair introduced them for no obvious reason

[Genevieve]

Yeah my point was that this definitley happens at the NYPD and could happen in the UK as well. Soo you confirmed my suspicion.