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Post by nospin » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:29 pm

Mohan wrote:
fliPPo wrote:
Mohan wrote:
fliPPo wrote:
Mohan wrote: But the stuff that really caught me was Post Rock, Math rock etc.

My favorite music of all time was made by Godspeed You Black Emperor! But I also really dig bands like A Silver Mount Zion, Slint, Mogwai, Explosions in the sky, Do Make Say Think, Tortoise.
This shit is the goods. I'm into this more than dubstep, it's just not as much fun.
I'm in the same situation. Although I hope I'm wrong I think the whole Post rock thing has past its prime a while ago, I find the majority of records that blow my mind where created 5+ years ago. I dream of Hearing something as earth shattering as the first time I heard Godspeed.
oh man, I remember throwing on Slow Riot for the first time and just sitting through the whole thing gobsmacked. I was into 90% metal at the time, so it was a big deal. And then when lift yr. skinny fists came out, fuck. First time I listened to that was walking through the bush and up and down an old abandoned quarry at night on the diskman, an experience!

Godspeed did kinda drindle a little bit after that. Admitedly I haven't really been following the scene to strongly last couple of years, just been hanging onto the older stuff. Still get everything do make say think release though.
As pretentious as it sounds (but then many things about this type of music can be viewed as pretentious) this kind of stuff can be almost like a drug, used to supplement and alter an experience. I remember walking through a very high end shopping mall in Seattle Listening to BBF3 surrounded by all these yuppies preoccupied with their next Channel purchase, and it being such a perfect moment. Also walking around the grimy parts of Vancouver (where East hasting gets its title) In the rain listening to F## A## OO.
Oh, if your interested PM me cause I’ve got some pretty nice GYBE bootlegs of unreleased material.
you from seattle?

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Post by mohan » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:31 pm

Fraid not, I'm from the Uk but lived in Vancouver BC for a while and made a couple of short trips down.

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Post by nospin » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:49 pm

ah vancouver is nice... i need to make the trip up more often

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Post by Littlefoot » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:19 pm

FC wrote:NEGATIVE APPROACH!!

also Black Flag, Flipper, Le shok, The Misfits, Bad Brains, Cap'n Jazz, Black Eyes, + newer school: Trencher, Mika miko, Gallows, Liars, Lovvers...etc etc

yes yesss good thread
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Post by Littlefoot » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:21 pm

+TORMENT+ wrote:MOSS ICON huh? Good mention.

Yeah, been listening to lots of different sounds/eras with peeps @ work in the past months, playing old stuff to younger peeps who've never heard some greats, and being turned on to newer bands like Gallows, The National, etc. Even got me to go dig up shit i hadn't listened to in like forever.

Jesu
Mastadon
Universal Order of Armageddon
CIRCUS LUPUS - arguably, if i could list a "fave band"
The EX
Breads and Circuits
lots of Killing Joke
Jr. Ewing
Tiger Army
Shotmaker
Palatka
Red Light Sting
Nation of Ulysses / The Make-Up / Cupid Car Club
A Minor Forest
Desaparecidos
PlanesMistakenforStars
Los Crudos
xLimpWristx
Propaghandi
I Spy
Bob Tilton
Pailhead
Rodan.. remember them? Pre-June of 44
Bastard Noise
Le Savy Fav - prefer the earlier joints
The National - great band
Storm and Stress
the great CODEINE
Garden Variety

tons more
hey you really got some obscure ones in there!

Garden Variety, bloody hell didnt think anyone else on here would like em, I spun their first lp yesterday actually first time in years! really oddly mastered though

Bob Tilton : notts represent, you like Wolves of Greece too? I know Neil from said bands, hes sound, he gave me a bunch of rare emo records.

Palatka, Shotmaker? NOW YOURE TALKING!

also the Ex are fucking ace
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Post by Littlefoot » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:24 pm

Virus human race wrote:
Joe C wrote:
Virus human race wrote:Yes to post-punk (even veerring into new romantic stuff on occasion) :lol:

Yes to Slowcore. Add Low to that list, even newer Jesu, the silver EP espescially.


And everyone should be down with Slint and Shellac

Slowcore is the dumbest name ever, but it means a certain sound, and that sound is good. You ever heard Bedhead? very minimal picky guitars similar to shoegaze stuff but without any production!
Aye, Im not really arsed about genre titles, as long as people know what Im getting at.

Yea my mate who's in a (proper) emo band have a song called 'Bed' which is partly like a tribute of sorts. I think I remeber him palying me some Bedhead once. Ill ask him to burn me something off like, hes always gettin me into stuff Ive never heard of, Saetia, Envy, Pissed Jeans etc
cant stand Envy, Saetia are very much a "getting into emo" band.

people in here loving the old emo and post punk, check out my band, we have a couple of 7"s out of the past few years, and we have an lp out like.. just now!

http://www.myspace.com/whatpricewonderland

people say we are a mix of the rawer 80s/ealry 90s emo and groovey post punk, which is a very nice thing to say!
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Post by umkhontowesizwe » Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:11 pm

impact unit, ssd, youth korps, infest, suicidal tendencies, gang green, JFA, agent orange, adolescents, chronic sick, early husker du, naked raygun, the effigies, urban waste all still get spun from time to time.

not too big on crustiness or emo. most newer stuff bores me (appart from think i care, who are amazing).

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Post by +torment+ » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:48 am

Joe C wrote:
+TORMENT+ wrote:MOSS ICON huh? Good mention.

Yeah, been listening to lots of different sounds/eras with peeps @ work in the past months, playing old stuff to younger peeps who've never heard some greats, and being turned on to newer bands like Gallows, The National, etc. Even got me to go dig up shit i hadn't listened to in like forever.

Jesu
Mastadon
Universal Order of Armageddon
CIRCUS LUPUS - arguably, if i could list a "fave band"
The EX
Breads and Circuits
lots of Killing Joke
Jr. Ewing
Tiger Army
Shotmaker
Palatka
Red Light Sting
Nation of Ulysses / The Make-Up / Cupid Car Club
A Minor Forest
Desaparecidos
PlanesMistakenforStars
Los Crudos
xLimpWristx
Propaghandi
I Spy
Bob Tilton
Pailhead
Rodan.. remember them? Pre-June of 44
Bastard Noise
Le Savy Fav - prefer the earlier joints
The National - great band
Storm and Stress
the great CODEINE
Garden Variety

tons more
hey you really got some obscure ones in there!

Garden Variety, bloody hell didnt think anyone else on here would like em, I spun their first lp yesterday actually first time in years! really oddly mastered though

Bob Tilton : notts represent, you like Wolves of Greece too? I know Neil from said bands, hes sound, he gave me a bunch of rare emo records.

Palatka, Shotmaker? NOW YOURE TALKING!

also the Ex are fucking ace
yup. BIG Garden Variety fan here. First heard Knocking the Skill Level back when it first came out, then got into the Gern Blandsten stuff, i still listen to them semi-regularly, very proto-emo, the GOOD shit, ya know? Still on the player @ work too, heh.

SHOTMAKER!! yeah, i've had this conversation before, but mainly with other people across Canada. If anyone outside of Canada, or the Troubleman Unlimited mailing lists for that matter, has enjoyed the late, great SHOTMAKER (Ottawa, Canada hc legends), big ups. Huuuuge influence for alot of Canadian hardcore bands, and for US fans as well. Impressive lineage, and enjoyable post-Shotmaker bands - 3 Penny Opera, 30 Second Motion Picture, The Grey. Vital listening.

Ex.. still relevent, and pushing boundaries almost 30 years on. Fuck. Always brilliant.

Bob Tilton. They were on Southern Records (US), so big things @ the time for an obscure british band to get some distro overseas, huh? They weren't bad. There were very few british post-hardcore/emo bands making the rounds in american/canadian zines or distros back then, so i think Bob Tilton got some heads turning overseas for that fact. As an aside, I was into older UK bands like Bivouac, of course Leatherface, Skullflower, MC4, too. The first Therapy? stuff sounded alot like Husker Du, heh. Can even go back to Fudge Tunnel, Godlfesh.. Lots to say here.

For brilliant, vintage 80's Canadian political hardcore, check out I SPY. Good. The real deal. (G7 Welcoming Committee, * obvious historical Propaghandi connection too). I guess in recent years, imho, another Canadian hardcore great was Born Dead Icons from Quebec. Dope.

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Post by Littlefoot » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:36 pm

finally managed to pick up "songs of the free" by Gang of 4 today for cheap in Notts at ANARCHY.

wierd the first two tracks "call me up" and "i love a man in uniform" are two of their best tunes but i never owned this lp.. wierd! anyway, what a great lp, i LOVE funky post punk!
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Post by fc » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:22 am

Joe C wrote:
FC wrote:NEGATIVE APPROACH!!

also Black Flag, Flipper, Le shok, The Misfits, Bad Brains, Cap'n Jazz, Black Eyes, + newer school: Trencher, Mika miko, Gallows, Liars, Lovvers...etc etc

yes yesss good thread
whos this!?
it's Faye.. go to pretty much everything in notts with bass/clicks/twangs/screeching...surprised i don't know you
www.myspace/fcrulesok

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Post by virus human race » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:25 am

Joe C wrote:cant stand Envy, Saetia are very much a "getting into emo" band.
Aye thats prob cos my mates getting me into emo ! :lol: :lol:
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Post by shonky » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:25 pm

Dead Kennedys are one of my fave bands ever - used to wander round my hometown rockin the Holiday in Cambodia t - great way to avoid twats trying to make your acquaintance.

Big Black, Rapeman and Shellac - seriously fucked up noise and contempt at a bullshit world.

Codeine - White Birch and Frigid Stars are my melancholic friends

Afghan Whigs I gotta love for Congregation - so many good songs

Loads of the Amphetamine Reptile label - Today is the Day, Cows, Helmet, Boss Hog

Don't really listen to much of this stuff any more but was well into it in the early nineties - modern "indie" isn't anywhere near as interesting as it was. Can't really be arsed listening to shit rehashes of stuff I really liked when I was younger.

Oh and Moonshake and Laika - not really rock in the conventional sense but some classic dubby urban angst shit
Hmm....

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Post by razer-wire » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:37 pm

PINK FLOYED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MOGWAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Littlefoot » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:25 pm

FC wrote:
Joe C wrote:
FC wrote:NEGATIVE APPROACH!!

also Black Flag, Flipper, Le shok, The Misfits, Bad Brains, Cap'n Jazz, Black Eyes, + newer school: Trencher, Mika miko, Gallows, Liars, Lovvers...etc etc

yes yesss good thread
whos this!?
it's Faye.. go to pretty much everything in notts with bass/clicks/twangs/screeching...surprised i don't know you
www.myspace/fcrulesok
aha I see you know Scott and Nathan Rape

we have some mutual aquantances... maybe ill run into you at Misst?

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Post by fc » Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:05 pm

Joe C wrote:
FC wrote:
Joe C wrote:
FC wrote:NEGATIVE APPROACH!!

also Black Flag, Flipper, Le shok, The Misfits, Bad Brains, Cap'n Jazz, Black Eyes, + newer school: Trencher, Mika miko, Gallows, Liars, Lovvers...etc etc

yes yesss good thread
whos this!?
it's Faye.. go to pretty much everything in notts with bass/clicks/twangs/screeching...surprised i don't know you
www.myspace/fcrulesok
aha I see you know Scott and Nathan Rape

we have some mutual aquantances... maybe ill run into you at Misst?

myspace.com/joe_c is me
ahh i would have been all over misst like a rash but i moved to london last week...enjoy, the last one at the garvey was biggg x

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Post by joka88 » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:32 pm

Mohan wrote:
fliPPo wrote:
Mohan wrote: But the stuff that really caught me was Post Rock, Math rock etc.

My favorite music of all time was made by Godspeed You Black Emperor! But I also really dig bands like A Silver Mount Zion, Slint, Mogwai, Explosions in the sky, Do Make Say Think, Tortoise.
This shit is the goods. I'm into this more than dubstep, it's just not as much fun.
I'm in the same situation. Although I hope I'm wrong I think the whole Post rock thing has past its prime a while ago, I find the majority of records that blow my mind where created 5+ years ago. I dream of Hearing something as earth shattering as the first time I heard Godspeed.

Well I was the same opinion to some point but there is a new band, which I cam across -called THE VIEW http://www.myspace.com/dryburgh
awesome I am telling you and this one is only going to get weirder. Boasting an album of incredible songs, and ever-growing band of believers, the rest of the UK is about to find out what the residents of Dundee have known for some time -

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Post by steppo » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:39 pm

sleep/high on fire
helmet
mastodon
helmet

and of course providence is known by some as the noise band capital of the world with bands like lightning bolt, white mice, athletic automaton, made in mexico

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Post by shaft » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:42 pm

...can I just add the (although post-punk) superb Maximum Joy and the Boredoms from Japan?

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Post by jim » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:39 pm

It's just Boredoms not the Boredoms!!!11!11

:P

Going to see V∞redoms in a few weeks :twisted:

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Post by Littlefoot » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:14 pm

Shaft wrote:...can I just add the (although post-punk) superb Maximum Joy and the Boredoms from Japan?
i have NO problems with post punk

its my fave genre ever!
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