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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:36 pm
by safetyboy
Dutty Yuppie wrote:As with many samples, the copyright history of the Amen break is complex. Neither the drummer, G.C. Coleman, nor the copyright owner Richard L. Spencer, the Grammy-award winning composer and performer of the hit "Color Him Father," has ever received any royalties for the sampling.
Imagine how much they should have got!
http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.ph ... genumber=1
some info here about a documentry been made about the amen
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:39 pm
by masstronaut
EFA wrote:This thread will self destruct in 10, 9, 8, 7...
Yeah being too specific with names isn't such a good idea.
What's the status of the Think break I wonder?
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:40 pm
by bob crunkhouse
THA ILLSTA wrote:Slim wrote:If you sample instrumental parts, is there any way they can prove you didn't just record them yourself? Or would you be done for stealing notes?
Yep, you can't steal the notes.
But if you re-record something it's a lot cheaper to get the rights because you are only considering the writer of the MUSIC and not the general recording as well.
You can, however, just change a few notes, and you are free as a bird.
Slim wrote:What about individual drum hits. There is absolutely NO way they can get you for that, right? I'd always heard with fairly small scenes like this major record labels turned a blind eye to sampling, because if, for example Michael Jackson wanted to sue Burial for Nite Train, the money they would get from hyperdub wouldn't even pay for the lawyers' fees.
Technically you can be sued for individual drum hits, the law used to be samples over a certain length but that is no longer the case.
And the artists and engineers CAN tell when you use 'em, contrary to popular belief.
It is true that in general, a blind eye is turned to recordings of release less than 5000 units. But that ain't a guarantee. And of course if you actually make any real MONEY off of your tune, there they are, ready to come a knockin' fo' yo ass.
Of course if the artist in question is untraceable, then they're gonna have a hard time getting you into court.
And if you have made every reasonable effort to trace the owners of a particular sample in order to clear it, with no luck, then you are free to use it as well..
Hope this helps,
And remember kids, don't try this at home.
Cheers for that, some nice info. cleared up a few arguments ive been having with friends for months!
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:42 pm
by dutty yuppie
EFA wrote:This thread will self destruct in 10, 9, 8, 7...
Surely not because I mentioned the amen break? Blimey, I pasted it from Wikipedia..
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:05 pm
by efa
Dutty Yuppie wrote:EFA wrote:This thread will self destruct in 10, 9, 8, 7...
Surely not because I mentioned the amen break? Blimey, I pasted it from Wikipedia..
Nah just all the insider knowledge we're getting from Benny, Big!