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loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

i think its vital that we take into account that she is from essex

imo take that child

give it to queen or sumut for more sophisticated upbringing


or w/e magma said. it sounded clever and i think he needs someone on his side right now

the internet can be a cruel mistress

Genevieve wrote:Yeah, nowaysj didn't say "you believe in central planning in all these affairs, therefore you believe that the state should rip babies out of a woman's womb'. It's more, 'you support a certain type of system, but there's nothing either morally or logically stopping that system FROM ripping a baby out of a woman's womb" and it's touching on what I've been saying with my last post. Where do we draw the line and why do we draw it there?

Democratic politics is all about finding those lines... unless you live in a dictatorship, it's going to be a bit of a juggling act.

I'm not a politician and I haven't ever worked in mental health; I only know that the line here comes a fair way short of sedating a foreign citizen and taking her child before consulting social services in her home country or investigating the offers of help from family friends.

Laws are rarely perfect, but this isn't about imperfect laws; it's an entirely wrong course of action whether the law supported it or not.

Obviously I have little/no experience of the case at hand, but my gut instinct would be for the child to stay with her in care whilst young (certainly whilst fetal!) and for any legal custody challenges to be dealt with AFTER the birth. The course of action taken here may be bad for baby (it may well not, given a good adoptive family) but you can be almost certain it's bad for an already-fragile mother who society owes all the same liberties to "pursue happiness" as the baby. This amounts to little more than kicking a woman when she's down.

i think you're going against the grain for the sake of it nowaysj.

gwa wrote:i think you're going against the grain for the sake of it nowaysj.

What is the grain in this case?

This thread took an unexpected turn

Breakdown? Can't really make my mind up (none of us can) without knowing more about that, she could have been rambling about making a fetus stew or something

magma wrote:You're a fucking moron nowaysj, but I'm done putting effort into writing text that nobody will read for the day.

This place is fucking soul destroying. I have no idea why I bother.

Since the thread got bumped, it turns out that the original story was pretty inaccurate, so this isn't perhaps as extreme as it originally sounded.

Social services actually waited until the baby had been born to start proceedings to take it into care - she wasn't forced into an early birth so the baby could be taken away from her.

Her breakdown was a fair bit more serious than a "panic attack" as reported by the Telegraph. Paranoid delusions etc.

Italian Social Services were consulted, as were friends and family.

DSF will be ecstatic to find out I no longer have such a problem with it.

also saatchi claims to have no proof on nigella

JUSTICE 4 ALL

gwa wrote:also saatchi claims to have no proof on nigella

JUSTICE 4 ALL

There should be a quorum decision level where the country is so disgusted with an individual that, even if there's no legal case to be had, they can be placed in the stocks and pelted with rancid fruit.

Saatchi is a fucking CUNT.

magma wrote:Since the thread got bumped, it turns out that the original story was pretty inaccurate, so this isn't perhaps as extreme as it originally sounded.

Social services actually waited until the baby had been born to start proceedings to take it into care - she wasn't forced into an early birth so the baby could be taken away from her.

Her breakdown was a fair bit more serious than a "panic attack" as reported by the Telegraph. Paranoid delusions etc.

Italian Social Services were consulted, as were friends and family.

DSF will be ecstatic to find out I no longer have such a problem with it.

If this is indeed the case then it sounds like they did it by the book

wow the media over exaggerated something

open ur eyes sheeple

The UK tabloids really need to made accountable to their shitty reporting

I was wondering what youse were going on about
it was reported in such a way as to seem drastic but reasonable here.
But is Essex really that bad?

magma wrote:Since the thread got bumped, it turns out that the original story was pretty inaccurate, so this isn't perhaps as extreme as it originally sounded.

Social services actually waited until the baby had been born to start proceedings to take it into care - she wasn't forced into an early birth so the baby could be taken away from her.

Her breakdown was a fair bit more serious than a "panic attack" as reported by the Telegraph. Paranoid delusions etc.

Italian Social Services were consulted, as were friends and family.

DSF will be ecstatic to find out I no longer have such a problem with it.

Flip flopper