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To your first post: Why? They provide a place for a business to advertise that they previously didn't have, if that business chooses to pay them money for a service to provide them with more likes, and they are provided with those likes they can't really complain.

Second post: No but facebook only 'rips off' the business once they have payed money for more likes, which the business gets. If you rely on paying facebook to advertise your business and use 'likes' as a measure of success your business is probably not a good one anyway.

i do see ur point man, but imo its sly, cos they advertise it under the guise that people will be getting extra promotion to potential customers (etc), and not get random likes from clickfarms, and then when they got no more activity from said likes, theyre scammed into having to pay to promote their posts to the people that already liked their page. its just a big swindle

dont get me wrong man i think its a shit idea anyway i dont want some wankyaids corporation fucks (that i havent already liked) on my faebook feed i want pictures of my mates dog wearing hats n shit. but i do think it is a dishonest way to do things on facebooks part. theyve clearly set up the site that way intentionally. forget about big corproations cos theyre loaded anyway, what about all the tiny little companies, indie tshirt company or a teashop or whatever, trying to run some promotions to make a bit more business, but they end up getting rinsed cos they arent reaching anyone and hav e to pay to get noticed.

bennyfroobs wrote:mason doesnt give a shit about anything that doesnt directly affect himself

nowaysj wrote:

bennyfroobs wrote:mason doesnt give a shit about anything that doesnt directly affect himself

That is an understatement.

In fact he really enjoys things that destroy the world, as they act as an externalization of his own feelings about himself and the world he lives in. It is thanatos manifest on a global scale.

tbf its better than u lot who moan about it on the internet and do ABSOLUTELY FUCK ALL ELSE lol

Agent 47 wrote:tbf its better than u lot who moan about it on the internet and do ABSOLUTELY FUCK ALL ELSE lol

This is basically my point 'ooo we are so socially conscious' ok cool what does that change. Me with my opinion, and you with yours have achieved exactly the same thing, nothing.

unfair assumption, people dont just exist in this little internet bubble

how can u possibly know what ppl get upto outside of DSF :DD

true

a wild guess would be that you do little else tho

how are you stopping facebook from bein evil ben?

well ur wrong but w/e

not much u can do about this other than spread the word n say "hey m8s who own businesses if u have a business dont buy into this fake like shit, it gets u nowhere"

and then hopefully people will be like "ye safe man ill spend my money on some more worthwhile promotion for my business"

beter than nowt init

Derek is amazing, he actually wrote his thesis on better ways to educate students... all of his channels and efforts are well worth watching and investing time in, even his super early stuff (flash freezing water, etc)

it would be easier to discuss if there was less poo accusations being thrown tbh.


but

it is really simple. if you look out for others or give them a smile like this or this , it means others will be scammed by your little guise of appearing to be all nice and all -and then YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT and doesn't that sound appealing?

Agent 47 wrote:tbf its better than u lot who moan about it on the internet and do ABSOLUTELY FUCK ALL ELSE lol

Three things:

1. You're free to not read this thread, or any other with moaning in it. So be gone.

2. Moaning about shit on the internet is doing something. This is the spread of knowledge.* This is about the expansion of consciousness. This is the recognition of a distortion and manipulation of the social fabric. Speaking about that distortion is a countermeasure to protect our communities. As people become aware of threats, they themselves can guard against them. This is traditional herd tactics.

3. You and masson are so totally defeated. You guys are constantly like, well if we can't change it, then why talk about it. You failed right there. Right in your premise you failed. Who says you can't change it? You just deciding that you don't like what ever it is is not going to stop it, but you engaging enough to make that decision, this shit is not good, and then standing against whatever it is, in whatever way you can, spreading knowledge to other people so they can make their own decision to join you in resisting something that now we both see as a negative. It is people like you and masson who have been so totally morally destroyed who allow the destructive forces in our society. You are propagators of that destruction - they had to convince you that you are powerless and your decisions and actions and beliefs are meaningless. So sad bros - the both of you are incredibly gifted. You could be powerful contributors to the building of a much better society.

*and this is why the internet is being converted into a controlled medium of expression, with filters for 'esoteric knowledge' being built into the backbone. The free exchange of information on the web is the greatest threat to the rising control state.

nowaysj wrote:You guys are constantly like, well if we can't change it, then why talk about it. You failed right there. Right in your premise you failed. Who says you can't change it?

No one says i can't change it but i would rather not spend a large portion of my life trying to alter something that there is a large chance i will fail in doing. I would rather not start a journey than start one and realise several years down the line that my path is immovably blocked, this is neither correct or incorrect just a way of thinking. The blind faith in being able to bring about some great societal change, even any great progress of society, is imo akin to that of a belief in religion, completely fair enough and people are entitled to it but it's not for me (I welcome my opinion changing however).

nowaysj wrote:they had to convince you that you are powerless and your decisions and actions and beliefs are meaningless.

Who are this they? I believe the opposite; our whole lives we are taught by parents, teachers whoever else that we can achieve anything and make a difference if we put our minds to it, this is incredibly damaging imo. It leads to the false hope that we can change things and then when throughout our whole lives we are repeatedly dissapointed it leaves us depressed. Of course every now and then a person does make a change, MLK for example, but to think we could be the next MLK is delusional and will lead to disappointment.

The alternative, the knowledge of the fact that we will work toward this blind hope our whole lives and then leave the earth having achieved nothing of true significance, is very depressing but for 99% of humans is the truth. Some people will think they could be the 1% this is that blind hope i speak of, to aim to be in that 1% is fair enough but imo incredibly delusional.

nowaysj wrote: You could be powerful contributors to the building of a much better society.

In what way would this society be better? I don't think it would be, just different. What would you compare this society with to say it's better, in what way could you measure the improvement?

I am sure when you were my age you had grandiose ideas of what you would do/be/change? Have you achieved them, how is where you are now compared to what you thought you would be when you were 20? If you are not where you want to be then how can you continue to trust this faith you have in you that things will improve?

m8son wrote:I believe the opposite; our whole lives we are taught by parents, teachers whoever else that we can achieve anything and make a difference if we put our minds to it, this is incredibly damaging imo. It leads to the false hope that we can change things and then when throughout our whole lives we are repeatedly dissapointed

fuck. how beautiful.

&soul destroying

big ups

nowaysj wrote:So sad bros - the both of you are incredibly gifted. You could be powerful contributors to the building of a much better society.

okay, i change my mind

Yeah, it's fraudulant and contract breach and a sueable offense. But there's nothing 'politically aware' about acknowledging it about this and I really hope nowaysj was being sarcastic when he said that.

People fuck with people and hope to get away with it. Everyone does it one form or another daily. But since it's Facebook and so-called 'alternative media' is railing against it, suddenly it's blown out of proportions like they're lining up people who bought adspace on there to be shot and killed. "omg not facebook ". That shitty ass mom-n-pops store around the corner pulls the same shit. No one cares about it, however, because no one cares about that store.

All you're doing by talking about it is buying into the Facebook hype.

I'm not justifying it, but the amount of shits are given PURELY because it's Facebook doing it is a bit much

Genevieve wrote:But there's nothing 'politically aware' about acknowledging it about this and I really hope nowaysj was being sarcastic when he said that.

Didn't even watch the vid No, but totally serious. This and other activities are not isolated, but part of a larger picture of who and what fb is. And to the rest, fb's scale is huge, their practices affect everyone's lives. Their actions require much greater scrutiny than a mom and pop.

No one cares about it, however, because no one cares about that store.

Every time I go shopping there's someone complaining about asparagus or how rocky the salt is or whatever, so not a definite truth.

test recordings wrote:It is fraud because they are knowingly complicit in the scam by:
a) not admitting it, and
b) not doing anything about it, despite benefiting from it.

They can't say "Oh it's not us, keep paying, it's okay..." when it's a blatant flaw in the product they offer...

The evidence that is available wouldn't hold up in court though, that's all I'm saying. The video gives a suggestion for the source of the problem, it makes sense, and it may be true, but that isn't proof.
And for the record, he also said that facebook do make an effort to shut the Like Companies down. And they can say that. It's not really their fault that private entities choose to fuck with their system.

To conclude, chill man, I was only having a laugh. As the creator of the irritating shit on facebook thread, I'm all for some reasonably harsh words at Zuckerberg's expense.

bennyfroobs wrote:so if anyone provides u with some sort of free services, it gives them the right to rip u off and fuck with ur businesses success?

Since you brought it up, I urge you to consider carefully before you click 'Agree' on any website's terms and conditions.

The 'spider' has caught you in it's web (3.0) and you are going to die.