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He did make black skinhead so yeh bro we kno

i think i would rather have a beer with hitler tbh

Beer with hitler deserves its own thread

What questions would you ask etc

Um Mr. Führer sir, is it true that you only have one testicle?

Kanye will be remembered as an innovator, but the truth is that he listens to what's hot in the underground and brings his own appropriation of it to the mainstream.

Genevieve wrote:Kanye will be remembered as an innovator, but the truth is that he listens to what's hot in the underground and brings his own appropriation of it to the mainstream.

Very true. He's really good at it though, and I think it has a positive effect on music as a whole.

^like Bowie did

today's Hendrix re style, innovation and skill?
ain't none partly because of the time his musical life and his melding of influences
(Frank Zappa missed the big band input & John MacLachlin became too narrow-minded))

today's Pink Floyd re style and big-show iconography?
taking into account their English prog-rock (e.g. Barclay James Harvest) and German electronic influences
maybe Animal Collective or Muse...but drawing a long bow.

sd5, peeps will have no idea what you are talking about if you mention John McLaughlin on this board.

I don't know.

Prove me wrong.

lol @ kendrick lamar

I was thinking kendrick's more like 2Pac

But anyway ive realized this was a silly question to ask

FFS Muse

Muse is so corny

Im sorry no.

Kanye West can absolutely do 1.

He isnt forward thinking at all and his bars are shit & hes a grade A wanker.

Ppl big up his productions but tbh never heard anything by him id rate higher than decent. Yeezus was potentially the most noshed off record and it was bait

Sorry just have no love for the man at all

Amen

Noel Gallagher

I think Kanye's influence is massively overstated. He's a huge celebrity and a huge figure in music, but I don't think he's set any musical trends at all. Again, he just followed and appropriated them.

Madlib, Dilla and DJ Paul have a much bigger influence on contemporary hip-hop. And Dr. Dre's, Timbaland's and the Neptunes' influences are still as present as ever.

I'm not saying that Madlib, Dilla or Paul are bigger than Kanye, though. I certaintly don't believe they are. But stylistically, their influence is far more wide reaching than Kanye's.

I don't get why kanye is so influential.

he's not at all.

people just buy into the narcissistic bullshit he's constantly spouting and start believing what he says

Genevieve wrote:I think Kanye's influence is massively overstated. He's a huge celebrity and a huge figure in music, but I don't think he's set any musical trends at all. Again, he just followed and appropriated them.

Madlib, Dilla and DJ Paul have a much bigger influence on contemporary hip-hop. And Dr. Dre's, Timbaland's and the Neptunes' influences are still as present as ever.

I'm not saying that Madlib, Dilla or Paul are bigger than Kanye, though. I certaintly don't believe they are. But stylistically, their influence is far more wide reaching than Kanye's.

You're mostly right. Especially big up DJ Paul, should be as talked about as dilla IMO.

But that's not OP's question.

Also, Dre style beats are completely gone from contemporary hip hop aren't they?

yh but i am also sure op's question isn't 'who is the most up himself wanker in music nowadays'

Kanye's College Dropout came out when hiphop on the whole was in quite a terrible state. That set him up for a good few years in music. Geneveev nailed it when he said hes not an innovator as such, but hes always had an ear for whats hot. Especially in hiphop, a genre based on the ideal of sampling each other, i find it hard to blame what kanye does in this respect.

He is a twat. But who else in recent years has done an album that is just as fuckin vast as My Beautiful Twisted Dark Fantasy (other than maybe bjork's attempt with biophilia... but certainly no one in hiphop)? In a certain way, it does remind me of Floyd, the sheer amount of (yes, narcissistic) vision involved in both dark side of moon and dark twisted fantasy

Having said all this, Im not his biggest fan tbh lyrically hes gone down the drain and i cant stand his ego now. On the whole, i wouldnt like to call him our Floyd, no; that was just a suggestion. But i respect his work, he definitely deserves to be a suggestion imo