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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:48 pm
by benjybars
BlizzardMusic wrote:Shonky wrote:"The music is glaring, the sub sound is a knife edge, stabbing through the hearts of listeners."
I did actually read the sig - do you mean blaring? And you can't stab with a knife edge, you need the point - you might mean slashing, but then sub is a blunt instrument surely?
I need answers
i dont know
its just something i found
dont need to be such a pedant about it
hahaha.. but it's a pretty weird thing to stumble across and think yeah, i'll use this as my sig..
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:56 pm
by vonboyage
Joe C wrote:wobble is a cop out
no new to the scene producers should dare try it! its been done by the masters and should be left alone!
I completely, totally, utterly disagree with everything you just wrote.
There, that's my input in here.
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:03 pm
by blizzardmusic
Vonboyage wrote:Joe C wrote:wobble is a cop out
no new to the scene producers should dare try it! its been done by the masters and should be left alone!
I completely, totally, utterly disagree with everything you just wrote.
There, that's my input in here.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:13 pm
by tronman
wobbly sub>>>>>>>>wobbly mids.
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:19 pm
by benjybars
tronman wrote:wobbly sub>>>>>>>>wobbly mids.
dun know.
(bruv how u get such a big avatar pic?!)
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:20 pm
by intoccabile
Wobble can be fun.
Wobble becomes problematic only when it is the only interesting element in a track.
There are too many tracks nowadays in which nothing - be it the choice or processing of the drum hits, the structure, etc. - stands out apart the wobble, and these are the tracks which make me hate it with a passion.
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:21 pm
by blizzardmusic
benjybars wrote:tronman wrote:wobbly sub>>>>>>>>wobbly mids.
dun know.
(bruv how u get such a big avatar pic?!)
probably by uploading a big picture?

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:26 pm
by vonboyage
BlizzardMusic wrote:

Hey nun of that

business
I was merely thinking...
If only certain man got to use certain sounds/styles,
There would not be an overall growth.
People that want to use it
People who dont, dont.
Everyones gotta have the chance to try n form dere own sound.
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:37 pm
by blizzardmusic
Vonboyage wrote:BlizzardMusic wrote:

Hey nun of that

business
I was merely thinking...
If only certain man got to use certain sounds/styles,
There would not be an overall growth.
People that want to use it
People who dont, dont.
Everyones gotta have the chance to try n form dere own sound.
Well, if you don't, your called a 'biter'! And thats something every person in this forum probably knows about!
Good point tho VBY
Mayhem all day
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:41 pm
by deamonds
BlizzardMusic wrote:Vonboyage wrote:BlizzardMusic wrote:

Hey nun of that

business
I was merely thinking...
If only certain man got to use certain sounds/styles,
There would not be an overall growth.
People that want to use it
People who dont, dont.
Everyones gotta have the chance to try n form dere own sound.
Well, if you don't, your called a 'biter'! And thats something every person in this forum probably knows about!
Good point tho VBY
Mayhem all day
you know when u make a badbwoy wobbler tho its hard to resist using it
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:21 pm
by tronman
don't forget about the beats. too many tracks with crazy b-lines and no decent rhythms.. it doesnt seem to be so much about the drums anymore. no-one really fucks with drumz.. i'd say mala and toasty only ones really pushing it out there. im really feelin what double helix doing his rhythms and drumz are heavy
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:24 pm
by intoccabile
^^^^^ I agree.
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:31 pm
by ufo over easy
tronman wrote:don't forget about the beats. too many tracks with crazy b-lines and no decent rhythms.. it doesnt seem to be so much about the drums anymore. no-one really fucks with drumz.. i'd say mala and toasty only ones really pushing it out there.
kode 9s recent stuff might not be so percussive but rhythmically his recent stuff has always been baaaad... magnetic city is pretty stripped back in terms of percussion but the rhythmic interest comes from elesewhere - that pounding sub note and the way it interacts with the synth
other names that spring to mind - martyn, pinch, rsd, 2562, ramadanman, untold, pangaea, fracture, sully, shackleton, appleblim, a fair bit of headhunter's 4x4 stuff... and then there's all that galloping 4x4 stuff by the big names
2008 is going to be the year of the drum - everyone's just catching up

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:39 pm
by dj phonetic
For me dubstep was bout the rythms and the bass but not, certainly NOT about the wobble.
Wobble is ok, but not to much please, its like many said before, the most easiest way but the only, best way???? dont think so
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:41 pm
by ufo over easy
Horsepower - HND
seeing as this tune exists everyone else can stop trying
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:43 pm
by spooKs
UFO over easy wrote:Horsepower - HND
seeing as this tune exists everyone else can stop trying
yeah ben. i always think horsepower used wobbles to the maximum effect and subtlety long before the tunes people are thinking about on this thread were around.
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:45 pm
by Littlefoot
hey I didnt mean if you write a bad boy wobbler it shouldnt be so
my fave dubstep tune ever is a wobbla
but its all about moving FWD, the people who will be here forever are sick of new wobblers (generally)
its not a "dont bother" its a "show me what else you got!"
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:45 pm
by parson
i like drums
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:48 pm
by corpsey
I don't hate wobble tunes, hate hearing wobbler/wobbler/wobbler/wobbler(rewind)/wobbler(rewind)/wobbler/wobbler with token beenie man vocal (double rewind)/wobbler... though
Still, can't blame DJs for playing it and producers for making it, because people love it. I wonder if for some people its provides the energy/speed that they don't find in beats that are slower than dnb (people complain about dubstep being 'too slow' etc.)? Only thing about that is you get tunes so aggressive that you're going to have a hard time dropping anything deeper alongside them without hyped up crowd members screw facing you...
I think the main danger with it is that its so effective and so accessible a stylistic signature of the genre that its in danger of becoming something that is too readily expected.
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:50 pm
by ether
ThinKing wrote:with no disrespect to the wobble originators like coki, skream etc etc wobble is an easy crowdpleaser to draw for - hence why it's become so popular and is being copied by loads of bedroom producers....
but it isn't the best thing to happen to dubstep, just the easiest most obvious way to move a crowd, esp if they're new to the sound and would find more minimalistic sounds harder to get into.
a-fucking-men