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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:00 pm
by linedamage
jasonn wrote:Hi, just intalled my copy of reason 4 and its caused this problem to the whole computer. Basically, since I installed it every sound in windows now seems to have a echo / reverb effect to it. This is really annoyin as whenever I try to listen to music or watch a movie it sounds like im trying to do it in a long hallway or summit!

Any help would be much appreciated on this issue.
try using this

http://www.asio4all.com/

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:15 pm
by Sub Shifter
that is wiered never heard of that what i would do is uninstall it then delete any reason files left over then go into start/Run/type in regedit and search for any propelerheads files and delete them then restart your pc and install again :wink:

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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:17 pm
by Littlefoot
a bad workman blames his tools...

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:23 pm
by feasible_weasel
jasonn wrote:Hi, just intalled my copy of reason 4 and its caused this problem to the whole computer. Basically, since I installed it every sound in windows now seems to have a echo / reverb effect to it. This is really annoyin as whenever I try to listen to music or watch a movie it sounds like im trying to do it in a long hallway or summit!

Any help would be much appreciated on this issue.
Awesome :o :lol: sounds like u have ur own reggae dubs version of windows now 8) 8)

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:11 pm
by roqqert
Joe C wrote:a bad workman blames his tools...
thank god im not the only who says that sentence

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:26 pm
by whineo
jasonn wrote:Hi, just intalled my copy of reason 4 and its caused this problem to the whole computer. Basically, since I installed it every sound in windows now seems to have a echo / reverb effect to it. This is really annoyin as whenever I try to listen to music or watch a movie it sounds like im trying to do it in a long hallway or summit!

Any help would be much appreciated on this issue.
what sound card do you have??

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:23 pm
by decklyn
if your card has something like creative's eax, it may have been turned on somehow. That's really the only way (that I can think of) that reverb could be applied to all sounds in windows - your sound card would need to have a reverb modeller that has been turned on and left on somehow.

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:34 pm
by auan
It could be feedback, with latency so it's not just a squeal. Although i don't see how installing Reason, legit or not, would cause it.

Any chance you can capture it and post a sample?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:01 am
by abZ
I am convinced that the sound quality of Reason has not changed at all from 1 to 4. Never was a problem with it to begin with. Just more often than not it's some amateur shit.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:12 am
by 3rdeye
abZ wrote:I am convinced that the sound quality of Reason has not changed at all from 1 to 4. Never was a problem with it to begin with. Just more often than not it's some amateur shit.
i would disagree mate, the difference in quality of the 2.0/2.5 engine and the 3.0 engine was huge! not a big difference between 3 and 4 in terms of sound quality though, did a bit of A/B'ing and i think the summing on the mixers is a little better now (but still a bit dodgy!).

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:28 am
by abZ
3RDEYE wrote:
abZ wrote:I am convinced that the sound quality of Reason has not changed at all from 1 to 4. Never was a problem with it to begin with. Just more often than not it's some amateur shit.
i would disagree mate, the difference in quality of the 2.0/2.5 engine and the 3.0 engine was huge! not a big difference between 3 and 4 in terms of sound quality though, did a bit of A/B'ing and i think the summing on the mixers is a little better now (but still a bit dodgy!).
It's been a while since v2 but honestly I don't recall a difference in sound. I just put 4 on my comp and I cannot tell the difference at all from 3. Even the little gap you get when exporting sounds is the same size. Something else... I don't think the sequencer was improved at all. My work flow has actually slowed a bit. Aside from the Thor, I'm pretty dissapointed with this release. Might finally be time to phase this prog out.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:54 am
by 3rdeye
abZ wrote:It's been a while since v2 but honestly I don't recall a difference in sound. I just put 4 on my comp and I cannot tell the difference at all from 3. Even the little gap you get when exporting sounds is the same size. Something else... I don't think the sequencer was improved at all. My work flow has actually slowed a bit. Aside from the Thor, I'm pretty dissapointed with this release. Might finally be time to phase this prog out.
i was extremely disappointed with the lack of improvements with the mixer. should have been completely redesigned imo - why not replace those pissy 'Bass' and 'Treble' channel EQ's (if you can even call them that!) with a basic, non-resonant, sweepable HPF and LPF? would be a damn sight more useful! that's something i really struggle with in Reason - i go filter crazy when i mix on a board or inside a DAW and its not something you can do all that easily or well in Reason.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:00 am
by twatty vagitis
3RDEYE wrote:i go filter crazy when i mix on a board or inside a DAW and its not something you can do all that easily or well in Reason.
:?:

1. Envelope controlled filter
2. Filters on the malstrom
3. Mclass stereo imager which is effectively an LP & a HP
4. Thors filters, All 4 types

what more do you want?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:13 am
by 3rdeye
twatty vagitis wrote: :?:

1. Envelope controlled filter
2. Filters on the malstrom
3. Mclass stereo imager which is effectively an LP & a HP
4. Thors filters, All 4 types

what more do you want?
yeah fair do's mate! I use the envelope controlled filter and Malstrom to filter currently. and i suppose the vocoder can be used for this to good effect. what i really want is an EQ akin to the channel EQ in Logic, or Waves Q series for example. I still maintain that all the EQs available in Reason could be a lot better. I have never thought about using the Stereo Imager as a filter though, good idea cheers!

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:35 am
by twatty vagitis
i actually hate the vocoder eq, never use it, only thing that sometimes gets used on the vocoder is for some BASIC spectral analysis

personally tho i think the mclass EQ is quite nice, it gives me all i need and is effective at what it does, and the modular nature of reason allows me to chain a number of eqs if i really wanna get deep into tweeking a sound. I dont think ive ever used the old 2 band parametric. and i def agree on the mixer eq, its a bit weak.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:43 am
by 3rdeye
twatty vagitis wrote: personally tho i think the mclass EQ is quite nice, it gives me all i need and is effective at what it does, and the modular nature of reason allows me to chain a number of eqs if i really wanna get deep into tweeking a sound. I dont think ive ever used the old 2 band parametric. and i def agree on the mixer eq, its a bit weak.
yeah im not completely dissatisfied with the mclass EQ, i suppose im just being fussy :wink: i think its great for things like sharp parametric notches and adding sheen with a high shelf... but if that low cut filter had a variable frequency, and there was a similar high cut on the other end.... and even perhaps an adjustable roll-off :) now that'd be something!

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:13 am
by roqqert
reason 4 is better with the cpu then 3 !

that was quite cool for me cause i use lots of channels most of the time :)

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:12 pm
by feasible_weasel
Roqqert wrote:reason 4 is better with the cpu then 3 !

that was quite cool for me cause i use lots of channels most of the time :)
8) :D

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:48 pm
by abZ
Roqqert wrote:reason 4 is better with the cpu then 3 !

that was quite cool for me cause i use lots of channels most of the time :)
I thought the opposite. Then again maybe it's just because I have been lazy about maintaining my comp.

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:11 pm
by dr.bushu
:?:

why cant i just copy a pattern from the matrix squencer into a track like in reason3?

-q-

edit- ha nevermind the option decided to show itself as i was reachin for the reason 3 cds :lol: