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why did you change your name, nocomastep?

was it so you could big yourself up under an alias? or so you could start annoying people all over again?

barryhercules wrote:tut tut shouldn't be referencing wikipedia...its really frowned upon cos its not peer reviewed

HAHA, nice one for clocking.

I was - this close to useing wikipedia's page on cultural geography for an assignment the other day, i swear most of its just ripped from the books i read anyway.

NoMoreComaStep wrote:you're telling me that as a customer, I shouldn't voice my opinion. I should just shut up and take what I am getting, meanwhile I have a real complaint which others share.

Stop flapping your fingers against the keyboard, and take a step back and look at the music industry.

Learn how Labels work (try to do a release yourself perhaps), you'll realize that certain "expectations" are really absurd. Not to mention, making demands turns people off.

What you need to understand, is that every record label is forced to deal with countless other huckster companies, like the digital distribution companies, who make no allusions about thier lazy attitudes towards posting products.

There is a long chain of people and processes that have to be carried out, to take advantage of all of the distribution out there, and things dont always happen at once, much less to the label owners satisfaction, and even less to customers, who really are gonna get what they get when they get it.

You are an AMERICAN consumer, arent you?

If you love the music enough you would buy a turntable

flipw wrote:If you love the music enough you would buy a turntable

If you love life enough you would buy a life support machine....

don't be a silly bastard*

(*No offence)

None taken.

My advice was constructive at least...

flipw wrote:My advice was constructive at least...

How?

UFO over easy wrote:why did you change your name, nocomastep?

was it so you could big yourself up under an alias? or so you could start annoying people all over again?

http://dubstepforum.com/profile.php?mod ... le&u=67745

banned innit

Thomas wrote:

flipw wrote:My advice was constructive at least...

How?

well....it was suggesting to dubstep lovers who had no turntable.......to buy one....
...but....now I read the thread and....the people had one

I told you all to CLAM UP!

Its been awhile since I stepped on this forum but I'm happy to have seen this thread.
I feel the same way about wanting to see digital releases coming out at the same time as vinyl or cd releases.

People collect different things.
Some people collect vinyl, some collect cds, and some collect digital files.

Personally I probably won't buy vinyl again because I prefer not paying $12 for a track that eventually gets hashed out and then have them take up space in my house.

I am also a Scratch LIVE user and love the advantages of using that program... utilizing cue points and loops, never needing to play the lame part of a track, and being able to choose when I want to play a break down. Its just nice not being at the mercy of the track I'm playing and having more control over what I want to do.

With that said, I understand why record labels currently don't drop the digital files at the same time as vinyl.
I think most of it is they haven't quite let go of the purist attitude towards vinyl and the other, smaller part, is that they are afraid to lose out on money because they think once its out for digital download everyone gets it for free.

I think that if there is a demand for vinyl than it would be smart for the record labels to put it out on vinyl.
If there is a demand for cds they should put it out on cd, and if there is a demand for digital files they should put them out as well.

How bad would it suck for vinyl djs if record labels waited a month before the new tracks were put on vinyl?
Or were never even put on vinyl?

Some local record labels in Seattle have started to sell digital files first and, judging on how many online sales they get, press X amount of vinyl.
This is working very well.
Although not ideal for a vinyl dj, quite a good idea for a record label.
No out of money expenses. Make money off the download and spend money to press the vinyl.

Quite simply, in my opinion, music is not worth $12 a tune.
Its worth $3 or $4 tops and I will happily pay that amount.
It angers me that because I choose to play digital files and use Scratch LIVE that I can't get current tracks.
Do record labels expect users like me to wait around for these tracks to come out on digital download?
Well people aren't waiting.. and in return the label and producer are losing.
Let me BUY THEM the same time as everyone else and in the format I choose to use.

Our economy is based on supply and demand and more and more people are demanding digital files be available at the same time as the vinyl.
Record labels and producers won't lose money.. they will make more.

I have no doubt in my mind that it will happen but waiting for people to wake up to the idea is extremely frustrating and tedious.

pk- wrote:

UFO over easy wrote:why did you change your name, nocomastep?

was it so you could big yourself up under an alias? or so you could start annoying people all over again?

http://dubstepforum.com/profile.php?mod ... le&u=67745

banned innit

this is his 3rd alias i beleive.