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i saw this for the first time couple weeks ago and loved the shit out of it

sick of hearing about sin city too because in all its faithfulness it was an incoherent mess

ya know sin city is Frank Miller's, right?

he's actually done loads of work in the movie biz, robocop 2 and all sorts.
so it kind of makes sense that his work is either more compatible with, or better treated by, that whole industrial process.

Bedward wrote:but how good is it to have so much blatant dissent on the silver screen!
"their is something seriously wrong with this country."
bloody right there is!
and the line which, for me, redeemed the film almost entirely,
"people should not be afraid of their governments,
governments should be afraid of the people."

Yes, two of the best bits for me. Stephen Fry's character (although he seems out of character at that moment) relates that first line direct to camera, directly at the viewer. It's almost seperate from the rest of the film. Nice try on the part of the film makers to break through the medium, which of course they realise will do it's best to subsume any genuine message of dissent.

It's definitely better than From Hell. But what isn't.

Anyway, like I said on another thread, looking forward to The 1812 Overture (Loefah Refix) midnight at DMZ tomorrow, followed by some big fireworks

masstronaut wrote: Anyway, like I said on another thread, looking forward to The 1812 Overture (Loefah Refix) midnight at DMZ tomorrow, followed by some big fireworks

there's a coupla chords just before the main section starts up that absolutely smash it.

side note: in the comic it was all about beethoven's 5th.

watched it again last night and noticed that a lot of interesting references are in there, but not over-played.
cheeky winks to the underground.
much like the 1st matrix.

and portman does do a stirling job, despite the occasional eliza doolittle moment.

it's so very nearly a brilliant classic film.

Bedward wrote:...the significance of the number 5.

Look out for the sequel - V For The Reload.

yeah, and a refix of that old swing/r&b hit,
" I got V on it..."

yeah i know about frank miller i and i know its a faithful adaptation and that fans were not upset about the adaptation and all that goes to show is that faithful adaptation is a bad idea

there has gotta be some changes from the page to the screen for the movie to work

i truly did not enjoy watching sin city

i am glad i saw Vendetta. it was inspiring in a cheesy way, though from the get-go i expected it to be corny and to have bit of that 'eliza doolittle' action going on.. it's hollywood
maybe she could have stood to do a bit more of the rain in spain goes mainly on the plains, but either way she's cute and endearing so she sold the part

seems alan moore often gets screwed on these adaptations, while miller is often pleased. and in most regards, adaptations of miller's work are faithful and almost as spot-on as they can be. i haven't read any of these comics, but i'm just speaking from what i've read in panel discussions and interviews with the artists and filmmakers.

and well, it seems as though Warners has made a place for themselves at comic con. don't see why they'd have any reason to leave now. miller is pleased with the adaptation of his 300, and indeed snyder has created a shot-for-shot film [albeit some minor differences in the dialogue and an additional narrative]. i'm looking forward to seeing this next one.

moore on adaptations of his films
http://www.mtv.com/shared/movies/interv ... an_060315/

"V for Vendetta" was specifically about things like fascism and anarchy.

Those words, "fascism" and "anarchy," occur nowhere in the film. It's been turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country.

George Clooney's being attacked for making ["Good Night, and Good Luck"], but he still had the nerve to make it. Presumably it's not illegal — not yet anyway — to express dissenting opinions in the land of free? So perhaps it would have been better for everybody if the Wachowski brothers had done something set in America, and instead of a hero who dresses up as Guy Fawkes, they could have had him dressed as Paul Revere. It could have worked.

this movie has gotta be one of the worse i eva seen like