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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:44 pm
by OGLemon

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:46 pm
by DJoe
because its far less painless and palatable to a greater number of people to reform and evolve rather than to back a revolution thats only wanted by a minority no matter how correct you are about the problems of capitalism a market driven society

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:49 pm
by dansci
Why was the victims neck broken? Police brutality?...yes.

But, the rioting is done by a bunch of losers with nothing to do. They are using the situation to satisfy their own desire for chaos. There seems to be a lot of agitators in the riot group.

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:51 pm
by SignalRecon
orangeluva56 wrote:rioting when a white cop kills a black guy is the flavor of the month
White cops kill white people too. Actually, most of the people cops kill are white. They aren't targeting black people specificaly.

I feel like most of the altercations end up going like this with the exception of a few jerk off cops that fuck with people because they are assholes;

Police: Do this
Person: No mang sumthing sumthing dayum yo whitey honkey I keeps it reals yo dayum yo
Police: Do this or you will get arrested
Person: No mang sumthing sumthing dayum yo whitey honkey I keeps it reals yo dayum yo
Police: Stop acting up and flailing gang signs at me, Im going to shoot you
Person: No mang sumthing sumthing dayum yo whitey honkey I keeps it reals yo dayum yo
*Shots fired

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:52 pm
by DJoe
thats a stupid statement that you cant possibly back up. a 'desire for chaos'. obviously there are agitators. its a fucking riot. the fact that there a bunch of ppl willing to riot indicates that there is a visibly a problem with the functioning of society

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:56 pm
by OGLemon
DJoe wrote:because its far less painless and palatable to a greater number of people to reform and evolve rather than to back a revolution thats only wanted by a minority no matter how correct you are about the problems of capitalism a market driven society
Exactly, that's were organization and propaganda come into play. For a social revolution to be successful it must be global and popular. I'd say that Russia's revolution got to the DOTP stage, but the failures of other revolutions led to Stalin and you know the rest of the story.

btw I have no delusions that social revolution is easy. I try to play my part by informing people of my perspective.

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:59 pm
by OGLemon
SignalRecon wrote:White cops kill white people too.
Something that is very important to note. It proves that the situation is both a class issue and race issue.

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:00 pm
by dansci
DJoe wrote:thats a stupid statement that you cant possibly back up. a 'desire for chaos'. obviously there are agitators. its a fucking riot.
They're burning their own shops and businesses and celebrating it as "willin out"... Few of the actual participants have a real understanding of the situation.

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:03 pm
by soronery


"But mama, I'm rioting wit' ma friends..."

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:03 pm
by DJoe
yeah thats what im saying even if thats true the fact that theyre doing that shows that society isnt working. if a signifient number of ppl are destroying their own communities it either means that they dont care about their society and so are marginalised, or that its a statement saying we've had enough . either way you look at it rioting is what happens when a society isnt working

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:04 pm
by dansci
DJoe wrote:yeah thats what im saying even if thats true the fact that theyre doing that shows that society isnt working. if a signifient number of ppl are destroying their own communities it either means that they dont care about their society and so are marginalised, or that its a statement saying we've had enough . either way you look at it rioting is what happens when a society isnt working
Many people in the ghetto marginalize themselves.

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:06 pm
by DJoe
do you know why its called a ghetto? if you did then youd realise why if that was true it would be irrelevant

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:06 pm
by dansci
DJoe wrote:do you know why its called a ghetto?
Yeah I lived in the ghetto for most of my life.

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:07 pm
by mason666
'Society isn't working' lol

In comparison to what? Some utopian ideal?

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:10 pm
by DJoe
so then you know that by definition living in a ghetto means that you are marginalised to an area with poor infrastructure, health services and education services due to your financial income

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:10 pm
by SignalRecon
mason666 wrote:'Society isn't working' lol

In comparison to what? Some utopian ideal?

The Marxist legoland world i built and modeled on Liberland. Mala headlines every night.

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:11 pm
by dansci
mason666 wrote:'Society isn't working' lol

In comparison to what? Some utopian ideal?
A good percentage of people in the ghetto view education and proper English as an evil forced on them by whites or other minorities. They isolate themselves and demonize those who try to get ahead in life. It's a societal problem that can only be solved by the people in the ghetto.

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:14 pm
by DJoe
in comparison to the comfortable life the majority of people could live if wealth was adequately distributed. in comparison to places with societies where people arent killed by the police?

you may have noticed that riots dont happen in chelsea or wimbledon.
riots are the most obvious indication that there is a problem with that society. how can you have a bigger indication. they are literally destroying parts of their own community and protesting in the streets.

@dansci you are literally chatting shit. even if that was true. its not a good percentage. its a small percentage

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:16 pm
by dansci
It's about 35% of the population who thinks that way. Most of them are under the age of 30. While ignorance and hate of higher education doesn't exsist throughout people's who lives, it serves as an early barrier to education.

Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:02 pm
by DJoe
ok m8. you sound like a well mannered reasonable cool human being