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Re: Dubstep Ethics
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:33 pm
by kuma
Joe Muggs wrote:
What are your thoughts on this? Am I being overly idealistic? Is there some kind of code of ethics at work here? DOES dubstep really have that friendly vibe, and if so, why? Does the music itself somehow feed into that? Can it last?
you're such a raver, Joe. =)
I don't think it's a code of ethics, more the fact that despite the hyper-speed maturation of the genre, the bigger players have been able to keep their heads on straight. Having worked with a bunch of em' on shows, tours and what have you, it's always been a welcoming, down-to-earth ting, first and formost.
Vibe works its way down. People are still just doing their thing as they always have, the only difference is that its expanded in scale over the last few years. So instead of folks doin' it the only way they know how in Croydon, it's Croydon, San Jose, Tokyo and Toronto.
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:35 pm
by dubluke
be interested to get a copy of the interview you did with people when its out, you make a lot of intelligent, well thought out points
Re: Dubstep Ethics
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:42 pm
by joe muggs
Kuma wrote:Joe Muggs wrote:
What are your thoughts on this? Am I being overly idealistic? Is there some kind of code of ethics at work here? DOES dubstep really have that friendly vibe, and if so, why? Does the music itself somehow feed into that? Can it last?
you're such a raver, Joe. =)
Hehe you knows it
I know I'm overstating the case but it's because I want to raise questions. Things change in any musical scene, especially as money becomes involved (or doesn't!) and I'm just wondering how conscious dubstep as a collective of people is about what makes it good and how that might or might not be preserved.
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:09 pm
by dubloke
iv only been to two nights and havent really met anyone yet but i love the atmostphere and how the producers, djs and mcs just mingle into the crowd, and even better is how they arent swamped by loads of people.
big up

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:16 pm
by Littlefoot
dubsteps the friendliest scene Ive been in, I know that.
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:26 pm
by the wiggle baron
repr0bate wrote:The Wiggle Baron wrote:...How can you complain about anyone, ever, being a dick (or however you put it) and then say something like that
JOG ON!
did you misunderstand it or something?
Nope. The sentence "Who the fuck do you think you are?" springs to mind.
Unless you judging people was all part of a big ironic joke...that I didnt get
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:26 pm
by repr0bate
The Wiggle Baron wrote:Nope. The sentence "Who the fuck do you think you are?" springs to mind.
Unless you judging people was all part of a big ironic joke...that I didnt get
^
see that's pretty much exactly what i was saying

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:34 pm
by xor
EDIT: I write crap when I drunk...
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:27 am
by the wiggle baron
repr0bate wrote:The Wiggle Baron wrote:Nope. The sentence "Who the fuck do you think you are?" springs to mind.
Unless you judging people was all part of a big ironic joke...that I didnt get
^
see that's pretty much exactly what i was saying

I really don't get how youre just glossing over the sentence "you're not all that bad". Might just be me, but I think thats utterly sickening.
And you know as much as the next person that a cocky wink at the end of a sentence is nothing but you getting your one-ups-manship in...
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:43 am
by pdomino
Nice thread Muggs

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:11 am
by dubluke
reprobate, wiggle baron - don't either of you see the irony in having an argument in a thread about how nice the dubstep community is and how friendy people are to each other?
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:41 am
by same'0
dubluke wrote:reprobate, wiggle baron - don't either of you see the irony in having an argument in a thread about how nice the dubstep community is and how friendy people are to each other?
i was just thinking the same thing....
!
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:07 am
by vibes
i duno wat u say

, but i can post TwO links on dubstep !!
Thsi is wat Wki has to say ::: -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep
Dubstep Doc. i found sumwer on youtube !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHaCSMJfGUA
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:54 am
by *grand*
Grands watching you.......... behave...
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:00 am
by hopper
Good posts Joe! The community vibes of dubstep are a pretty big part of me going to nights. Each night I go to in London I'll always know a dozen or so friendly faces. There's no real elitism in the scene as well, all friendly people just seem to be welcomed which is pretty great. I just hope that as the scene continues to expand that we don't lose this aspect, as at some of the larger nights I've been to I've witnessed a bit of a change in vibe recently.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:09 am
by the wiggle baron
dubluke wrote:reprobate, wiggle baron - don't either of you see the irony in having an argument in a thread about how nice the dubstep community is and how friendy people are to each other?
haha dam you that was going to be my next point
I didnt feel too into that argument though i got to say, normally all about em but just wasnt feeling the commitment this time. Definately not all about being judged by someone I havent got a clue who they are though lol
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:59 pm
by paolo
Joe Muggs is a certified badman. Yr chest!

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:45 pm
by mikey_g
Joe C wrote:dubsteps the friendliest scene Ive been in, I know that.
friendlier than hardcore? come on be serious.
the people are nice though, friendly, honest and banterous.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:13 pm
by repr0bate
The Wiggle Baron wrote:Definately not all about being judged by someone I havent got a clue who they are though lol
prang, tbh.

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:18 pm
by contakt
Was just talking about this to a mate the other day. I was saying how, although the music definitely comes first, the friendliness of the scene is integral to my continued enjoyment of dubstep. It feels good to know that when I go to a night I will see a bunch of, as Ben says, 'friendly faces'. I have been to all but two or three nights by myself but when I get there, I've got a whole crew to chat and rave with. I always meet new people too.
I've not come across any elitism, nobody has looked down their nose at me or me at anyone else. When I decided to put a night on earlier in the year, everyone I spoke to was really positive, supportive and helped out (including those 'big in the scene'). That is a rare and special thing and I think part of the reason we are seeing a bit of protectionism as the scene grows is because people are afraid of losing that element.