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Auan wrote:This thread needs more early Ed Rush and Source Direct.

i still listen to Artificial Barriers.

half the stuf mentioned on here int really jungle tho is it.

as much as i'm a big big fan of photek, surely rings around saturn etc class as DnB?

was hoping to learn something of gems i missed at the time cos i was too busy rebelling against being rebellious to check jungle properly til it became DnB. fool.

int there no older heads here can give us a jungle top 10 of stuf to track down?

so basically old school jungle like i posted and DS SS - The Lighter, Renegade - Terrorist, etc?

DJ SS- Black
Splash- Babylon
Remarc- R.I.P.
Dead Dred- Dred Bass (Origin Unknown RMX)
Origin Unknown- Truly One
Dillinja- Threshold/Angels Fell/Jah Know Ya Big etc etc
Source Direct- Black Rose/The Crane

The first jungle tune I bought was Stamina by Dream Team, still sounds as boisterous as ever. And Warriors on the other side - beauty.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KEQ2qsS0vyo

forgot about this little gem, way ahead of its time!

so much of this stuff make things coming out today sound incredibly boring in comparison.

UmkhontoWeSizwe wrote:http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KEQ2qsS0vyo

forgot about this little gem, way ahead of its time!

so much of this stuff make things coming out today sound incredibly boring in comparison.

hell yes, some of the early bukem was incredible (and quite darkside)

Shonky, i've seen you mentioning close-to-140 bpm early jungle a few times but missed the opportunity to ask, any reccomendations? Any mixes by your good self (the forum broke and stole the only one i have seen you post) or others?

Am a jungle imbecile, but i love what i have heard. (Not just orignial nuttah and incredible, don't worry)

Bristol.

Roni
Krust
Die
Suv
Bill Riley
J Raq

and any combo of the above

Full Cycle
Dope Dragon
V / Chronic 94-97
Protocol
Philly Blunt



I love a lot of music, but nothing touches me deeper than Bristol jungle.

Tearin' vinyl all the way.
Labello blanco recordings. The dreamer is one everyone should know.
Spiritual aura by dj rap
Dreams of heaven by inta warriors aka grooverider
Ascend and ultravibe.

Most of all The license by dj krome and mr time. Probably the best ever drop on any tune!

£10 Bag wrote:

detuneproductions wrote:Tearin' vinyl all the way.
Labello blanco recordings. The dreamer is one everyone should know.
Spiritual aura by dj rap
Dreams of heaven by inta warriors aka grooverider
Ascend and ultravibe.

Most of all The license by dj krome and mr time. Probably the best ever drop on any tune!

/\/\

the drop on the remix too, doo doo doo dooo have a have a have a have lic lic.....

remeber taping dj hype on kiss and he had come straight from the studio were krome & time had finished it that day. it was one of those wtf someones just moved the sound on moments.

ran round school the next day playing to every1 on my walkman

Slim wrote:Shonky, i've seen you mentioning close-to-140 bpm early jungle a few times but missed the opportunity to ask, any reccomendations? Any mixes by your good self (the forum broke and stole the only one i have seen you post) or others?

Am a jungle imbecile, but i love what i have heard. (Not just orignial nuttah and incredible, don't worry)

I'll have to dig through and see what I can find cause I've only got a few from round that period. It was when jungle was just getting identified rather than hardcore. Sensimilla crisis by Smoking Joe, Chronic Breaks and Watch Out by D'Cruze, Babylon Timewarp by Durban Poison (maybe more hardcore tbh), Bludclot Artattack by Ed Rush, Renegade Snares by Omni Trio more the 93/94 end if you want to do some digging, but pretty certain most of this was under 150bpm.

Although the production's a bit iffy on some of these (well I like it, but I'm not that fussed about pristine productions), I think the music at the beginning of a scene is generally at it's most interesting as it hasn't yet established it's boundaries or had an influx of musos so there's always this blissful ignorance of what's "right". Especially when the technology had not been around for that long, plenty of scope for experimentation.

Shonky wrote: I'll have to dig through and see what I can find cause I've only got a few from round that period. It was when jungle was just getting identified rather than hardcore. Sensimilla crisis by Smoking Joe, Chronic Breaks and Watch Out by D'Cruze, Babylon Timewarp by Durban Poison (maybe more hardcore tbh), Bludclot Artattack by Ed Rush, Renegade Snares by Omni Trio more the 93/94 end if you want to do some digging, but pretty certain most of this was under 150bpm.

Although the production's a bit iffy on some of these (well I like it, but I'm not that fussed about pristine productions), I think the music at the beginning of a scene is generally at it's most interesting as it hasn't yet established it's boundaries or had an influx of musos so there's always this blissful ignorance of what's "right". Especially when the technology had not been around for that long, plenty of scope for experimentation.

i agree - i like the roughness of production sometimes, particularly in soul, funk, reggae etc. a lot of modern music is overproduced and removes the life out of the music.

the time when you mention brought some amzing tunes like acen - trip II the moon. I used to have some good tapes i got off a mate from uni, but i lost them (duuh)

datura wrote:

Shonky wrote: I'll have to dig through and see what I can find cause I've only got a few from round that period. It was when jungle was just getting identified rather than hardcore. Sensimilla crisis by Smoking Joe, Chronic Breaks and Watch Out by D'Cruze, Babylon Timewarp by Durban Poison (maybe more hardcore tbh), Bludclot Artattack by Ed Rush, Renegade Snares by Omni Trio more the 93/94 end if you want to do some digging, but pretty certain most of this was under 150bpm.

Although the production's a bit iffy on some of these (well I like it, but I'm not that fussed about pristine productions), I think the music at the beginning of a scene is generally at it's most interesting as it hasn't yet established it's boundaries or had an influx of musos so there's always this blissful ignorance of what's "right". Especially when the technology had not been around for that long, plenty of scope for experimentation.

i agree - i like the roughness of production sometimes, particularly in soul, funk, reggae etc. a lot of modern music is overproduced and removes the life out of the music.

the time when you mention brought some amzing tunes like acen - trip II the moon. I used to have some good tapes i got off a mate from uni, but i lost them (duuh)

i'm with both of you. i think people get to into making everything sound clear and perfect ect. if a tune has got a vibe its got a vibe regardless of the quality.

some other tunes to hunt down that are true jungle to me with barley a ragga vocal in sight:

potential badboy- work the box (l l l l lets go)
shy fx- dirty games
dj ron- let it play/crackman
foul play- vol 3
photek- jump mk11
dj clarkee- ep vol 11 (more of a hardcore ep but the last track too much)
coolhand flex- mars
sacred- do it together (london massive)

shonky- just thinking about durban poisen has set me off. i;m gonna tell work ive got the winter pooh bug and go home for a mix

safe. glad this threads kept rollin. a fair bit of stuf 4me to check out here now

ThinKing wrote:nothing touches me deeper than Bristol jungle.

yeah, also really like a lot of it, but there's something thats a part of what i think of as the bristol sound that i dunno, slightly irritates me as well. its something with the drums. they're often kind of stiff and rigid compared to what i think of as 'true' jungle.

all those krust and size tunes and stuff like set speed and, er, cant think of which others and cant b arsed searching, maybe warhead... but the breaks r somehow less loose, choppy and deconstructed than other stuff. still killer tunes, but u can see the transition from jungle to the techy rigidity of DnB coming on the horizon

source direct were heavy as fuck too. were they from milton keynes or somewhere?

and shut up and dance: dance before the police come..just for the cover

source direct were from st albans weren't they? same as photek i think. check out this unreleased mix of snake style

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4FUgxsd6fc

thecrane wrote:source direct were from st albans weren't they? same as photek i think. check out this unreleased mix of snake style

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4FUgxsd6fc

hmmm, maybe yr right. used 2 think they WERE photek. think they were even signed to the same virgin imprint that released form and function. or was that sum1 else? fuckit, I'm off back 2sleep


EDIT: wasnt photek from ipswich?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LVFJpl3wki0


these guys are way a head of there time with this track