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Re: -40hz roll off?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:56 pm
by two oh one
Jtransition wrote:All of your tracks are going to be different so don't restrict yourself to a certain technique,try different things and listen to the results.

Jason
Indeed. Sometimes (albeit rarely) the bass seems just right and doesn't really need that much roll off.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:13 pm
by claw
i roll off stuff at 20hz and 15k when mastering, the sweet spot on a 18" subwoofer is 40hz, so i see no reason why anyone would ever roll anything off that high....but to each their own i guess

Re: -40hz roll off?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:25 pm
by jtransition
Citizen wrote:
Jtransition wrote:I would suggest enrolling on a sound engineering course to give you a good foundation in sound.

Jason
Can you please suggest any Jason? Cheers.
Where are you based?
i roll off stuff at 20hz and 15k when mastering, the sweet spot on a 18" subwoofer is 40hz, so i see no reason why anyone would ever roll anything off that high....but to each their own i guess
What has the"sweetspot" of an 18" subwoofer got to do with it?

Jason

Re: -40hz roll off?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:42 pm
by LEQ
Citizen wrote:
Jtransition wrote:I would suggest enrolling on a sound engineering course to give you a good foundation in sound.

Jason
Can you please suggest any Jason? Cheers.
The course at Salford is good. If you are in the UK that is...

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:45 am
by shonky
wang wrote: Also analyse and cut off the lows on everything, even if it doesn't appear to have messy lows -You'd be surprised how much bass there is in some high hats.
Yep, this is very true, also worth filtering out the inaudible highs on low sounds as well, found some of my subs which I'd low passed still showed frequency activity much higher than expected.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:48 pm
by shokman
I cut it at 20 and roll off at 30. Mainly to catch unwanted sub artifact's ruining my shit.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:07 pm
by nick z
We do a 25-32HZ cut usually depending on the freq of the subs and amout of layers for the lows. Z

Re: -40hz roll off?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:45 pm
by djake
Jtransition wrote: I would suggest enrolling on a sound engineering course to give you a good foundation in sound.
To answer the question;
All of your tracks are going to be different so don't restrict yourself to a certain technique,try different things and listen to the results.

Jason
i want your job when im older 8) :lol: :D

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:21 am
by spherix
if youre making dubstep its nice to leave all freqs as is coz theres enough space to seperate all your elements with EQ on each channel or group channel without freqs mashing together (ie kick roll off at 80, bass from 80 down)

if youre making dnb theres usually (in my experience) something like 20 - 60 channels of audio going into the main bus (albeit some are grouped)

in this instance its helpful to be rolling off set frequencies as that touch more headroom that low freqs take up can hinder so many more partials

imo in dubstep theres less channels and more space so youre usually right to leave that low end open to give weight in the club, mastering to make it right for wax can come later

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:31 pm
by powerpill
well i wouldnt blanket any music like that

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:40 pm
by spherix
its a generalisation yes, but one to explain why noisia are using this method of freq cut off

in drum and bass and music at faster tempos GENERALLY there are more frequencies competing at any one time

its probably not their reasoning for it but makes sense

sorry to use your blanky in a forum post :teef:

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:52 pm
by farina
are you guys just using eqs to roll off these frequencies?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:53 pm
by robphobos
I use -30 or if I get a chance at the venue to listen I will play quickly to test.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:24 am
by serox
Farina wrote:are you guys just using eqs to roll off these frequencies?
Interesting thread. I have been making music on my monitors (Alesis mk2) and thougth the tune might sound good on my speakers but its going to sound different for people with different speakers. Once I have made part of my tune I try to listen to it on as many different speakers/headphones as I can and try and see if there is anything that stands out that shouldnt. Or if there is anything missing that shouldnt!

Anyway, how are people removing these frequencies? I check mine out in Wavelab but have not really been trying to remove any, yet. I have just been going with what I hear.