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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:21 pm
by vahn roi
noodle wrote:I'd like to one day hear "true" silence.
We never hear actual silence, there's always background noise of some sort even if you think you can't hear it... it's there.
It would require a tank with no air, breathing apparatus and yerself.
I bet, with enough time spent in there, your brain would start making it's own sounds just so it's not bored... like how if you stare at the floor in the doctor's waiting room it warps... or is that just me?
Wouldn't the breathing apparatus make noise?
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:24 pm
by djelements
noodle wrote:I'd like to one day hear "true" silence.
We never hear actual silence, there's always background noise of some sort even if you think you can't hear it... it's there.
It would require a tank with no air, breathing apparatus and yerself.
I bet, with enough time spent in there, your brain would start making it's own sounds just so it's not bored... like how if you stare at the floor in the doctor's waiting room it warps... or is that just me?
Yes. If there's ever even minimal silence with low low low background noise, your mind will make shit up, like when you're home alone and you think that people are breakin in.
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:44 am
by sherbert mastodon
Silence is not, by scientific definition, sound, but Eastern thought holds that existence and nonexistence create, and are defined by each other. We have an anechoic chamber in college that I'm maaaad to get into.... Silence is important in a tune, and the cool thing for me is is that no two listeners will ever hear the silent bit in the same way.
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:17 pm
by clubroot
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:19 pm
by slothrop
dmrichmond wrote:I don't think there is such a thing as silence. I recall reading about how John Cage sat in a anechoic chamber and still heard sound.
Did you read about it about four posts ago, by any chance?
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:20 pm
by b-lam
Slothrop wrote:TeReKeTe wrote:analagous to the zero-as-a-number discussion.
Or black as a colour.
Good luck painting without black, good luck making music without silence.
weeeell actually it's far easier to paint without black, it tends to flatten the image
u wanna use something close to black that's actually just really dark blue or purple...
not really that applicable to music perhaps because you're never going to listen to a tune in a place that has a dead silence...
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:22 pm
by clubroot
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:41 pm
by jackquinox
B-LAM wrote:Slothrop wrote:TeReKeTe wrote:analagous to the zero-as-a-number discussion.
Or black as a colour.
Good luck painting without black, good luck making music without silence.
weeeell actually it's far easier to paint without black, it tends to flatten the image
u wanna use something close to black that's actually just really dark blue or purple...
not really that applicable to music perhaps because you're never going to listen to a tune in a place that has a dead silence...
Have you been watching the god that is Bob Ross??
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:48 pm
by whineo
Makes me chuckle to see Loefah talking about silence when most of his tunes have about -9db RMS
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:12 pm
by __________
i don't know about it being a sound, but i know i've paid enough for silence when its in the HUGE run out grooves on a lot of records.
thief in the night, just one example, has just as much silence on the record as music.
it might not be a sound, or music, but people still sell it, and we can still pay for it.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:04 am
by djake
£10 Bag wrote:i don't know about it being a sound, but i know i've paid enough for silence when its in the HUGE run out grooves on a lot of records.
thief in the night, just one example, has just as much silence on the record as music.
it might not be a sound, or music, but people still sell it, and we can still pay for it.
so true..
when i look at my dads old records thou they seem to use all the space up
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:59 pm
by thomas edison
3RDEYE wrote:i remember reading or hearing from a producer, whose name i forget, that "it's not the sounds, but the space between them" that makes a good track... which always stuck in my head. the space between sounds being silence of course!
= timing
the placement of silences = the placement of sound (silence, and sound where there isnt silence)
pretty logical all of this, if you ask me
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:49 am
by le_knigh
how do you bop your head to silence....?
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:09 pm
by spencertron
TROOPA wrote:how do you bop your head to silence....?
when you''ve had too many disco biscuits.
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:41 pm
by __________
spencerTron wrote:TROOPA wrote:how do you bop your head to silence....?
when you''ve had too many disco biscuits.
yep, anyone else hear hard house on speed comedowns?
WHO'S PLAYING THAT SHIT MUSIC?!?!?!
oh its in my head, no worries
WHY'S MY HEAD TAKING THE PISS OUT OF ITSELF?!?!?!
seriously, i'd have thought MY brain would imagine up music to hear that it knows I like, rather than hard house, which it KNOWS i hate.
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:06 pm
by le_knigh
'thats the one ha hu ha hu i like it ha hu ha hu',,,,,,,,,,i StaRt SCREAMIN dAAmn I SEE dEMonS!!
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:49 pm
by fuagofire
the thing that got me in to dubstep was the breaks in the sound - its like in some tunes the silence kind of provides the rythm
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:35 pm
by twitch
True silence is in a vacum
As long as there's air - theres a good chance of sound.
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:11 pm
by kato!
I've been lucky enough to experience being as close to silence as possible in a purpose built anechoic chamber, but even then you hear the blood running through your body!
As for music, was it not once said by a famous musician (can't remember who) that the notes you don't play are almost as important as the ones you do!
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:18 pm
by djake
Kato! wrote:I've been lucky enough to experience being as close to silence as possible in a purpose built anechoic chamber, but even then you hear the blood running through your body!
i wanna experience that.