this is why i don't fly

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:07 pm

i fucking hate flying, i find two sleeping pills, an ipod full of mellow music and a few beers helps though

the IT guy where i work flew into san francisco recently and hit the runway completely side on, pilot managed to rescue it though

gibraltar airport is quite similar to wellington nesslei - short with sea at both ends, also cars and stuff drive across it all day when the planes aren't landing, any debris that may fall off them goes onto the runway and can make the planes skid

vonboyage · Post by **vonboyage** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:10 pm

Well, thats not safe.. is it ?

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:13 pm

Vonboyage wrote:Well, thats not safe.. is it ?

well i think they give it a quick check, but still a scary thought, if they missed something.......

dreadheaded · Post by **dreadheaded** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:37 pm

I think the pilot should be praised for saving the plane, however he should have never put himself into that position, both lufthansa and airbus set limits for landing in crosswinds, and airbus's limit is around 40knots , if the wind speed was 150mph, the plane should not have attempted a landing, also you would have thought that a major international airport would have sufficiant radar and wind detection systems to have known that a landing was not safe, esspecially without a working ILS on the runway which gives the correct approach angle and glide slope

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:38 pm

yeah but what you gonna do if you can't land the plane? fuel supplies ain't unlimited...gonna have to come down sometime

vonboyage · Post by **vonboyage** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:50 pm

Lol if it was LDN i'd start circling it with a tour & charge admission.

And on the left... you see the London Japs Eye...

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:52 pm

forgot i started this thread

i can't stand flying because it's just so fucking wrong. the plane shouldn't be up there and the amount of tiny little adjustments the pilots have to make that could go HORRIBLY FUCKING WRONG at any moment is huge. i live next to London City Airport and watching them come in when there's even the slightest bit of crosswind is terrifying.

it ruins holidays for me as well, cause for 2 weeks up to the point i'm shitting myself about the flight over there, and then after a moment's euphoria after the landing i'm shitting myself all holiday about the flight back home.

nice spot for some sunbathing:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b62_1186902812

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:58 pm

pk- wrote:forgot i started this thread

i can't stand flying because it's just so fucking wrong. the plane shouldn't be up there and the amount of tiny little adjustments the pilots have to make that could go HORRIBLY FUCKING WRONG at any moment is huge. i live next to London City Airport and watching them come in when there's even the slightest bit of crosswind is terrifying.

it ruins holidays for me as well, cause for 2 weeks up to the point i'm shitting myself about the flight over there, and then after a moment's euphoria after the landing i'm shitting myself all holiday about the flight back home.

nice spot for some sunbathing:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b62_1186902812

yeah i sorta get that a little myself pk, bloody horrible

that beach landing is just stupid, anyone in the wrong place on the beach could be sucked into the engines, and it cannot be good for people's ears!

setspeed · Post by **setspeed** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:00 pm

the story was corrected - it was the plane that was doing 150mph, not the wind.

had a pretty sketchy crosswind landing last week into Manchestoh - although landings like that with a decent airline scare me a lot less than some tosswit pilot in an eastern european budget airline (which i fly with every couple of months!)

the missus's parents were due to fly this week on Belavia, the Belarussian national carrier. unfortunately they can't because the plane crashed last week, turning upside down on takeoff and catching fire

PK - if it's any comfort, airlines like Belavia are not allowed into UK airspace. any carriers have to be watertight with safety, documentation, servicing, blah blah blah and if there's any doubt then they're not let in. so when you're going on holiday you won't be on just any shonky old crate!

never flew into the old Hong Kong airport - i went there about 2 years after it moved. gutted, it would have been well mad...

boy_arena · Post by **boy_arena** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:07 pm

Thats some mad shit! i would poo myself if i was on that plane. did it crash then?

setspeed · Post by **setspeed** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:18 pm

nah it went round for another go and landed fine.

dreadheaded · Post by **dreadheaded** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:59 pm

dubluke wrote:yeah but what you gonna do if you can't land the plane? fuel supplies ain't unlimited...gonna have to come down sometime

you divert to your alternate which would have been within flying distance, all big commercial jets are required to carry enough fuel for at least 2 hours more then their flightplan

and i know he came around and landed fine that doesnt make it right, a few years ago dallas airport was studied during times when there were storms over the airport that exceeded recommended landing conditions, despite the fact that most airlines set limits for crosswinds and windshear and on most of these days during the study the weather exceeded the limits more 2 thirds of the planes landed, and of those almost half had to make a go around

this is a symptom of extreme pressure on pilots to not divert there planes and incurr extra costs to the airlines, if this plane had crashed everyone would be asking how such an experianced crew decided they could make a landing, we shouldnt really be praising this act of reclessness with 170 peoples lives, but as i said its not all his fault, airlines should make sure that pilots are fully aware of the weather they are allowed to fly into and land in, after all weather is the biggest danger to a large aircraft. Also it should be considered that sometimes airlines will put a pilot on a flight, that if it is delayed by an hour (which is fairly common) he is running the risk of running over the maximum 12 shift, which will get both the airline and him in trouble with the FAA

these are all symtoms of the cheap flights that are available these days, they have to save money wherever they can and it reduces saftey in our skys massivley

vonboyage · Post by **vonboyage** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:05 pm

Big it, dreadhead.

vonboyage · Post by **vonboyage** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:06 pm

pk- wrote:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b62_1186902812

Fucking... WOT ?

Nah bruv..DEEP.

Imagin u were in the water.. And u try get sucked in.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU HOLDING ON TO ?

dubloke · Post by **dubloke** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:08 pm

now that is a good pilot, keeping that plane under control under those conditions

saved some lives that day

misk · Post by **misk** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:18 pm

probably the scariest video ever:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=844_1201205995

dubloke · Post by **dubloke** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:25 pm

Misk wrote:probably the scariest video ever:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=844_1201205995

I was going to say...

echo wanderer · Post by **echo wanderer** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:15 pm

Misk wrote:probably the scariest video ever:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=844_1201205995

I love the fact that they consider it "mature content".

drksteppa · Post by **drksteppa** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:18 pm

each time i fly, I always get sick. dont know why but i always do get sick.

slim · Post by **slim** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:29 pm

Used to be terrified of flying. I haven't really lost my fear of it, i just enjoy the thrill of having the shite scared out of me during takeoff, and sometimes landing.

Have had an engine shut down on me once, that wasn't fun. It's extremely unlikely, but at the same time, one of the worst ways i can think of to die.

Now the girlfriend has moved continents it looks like i may be flying a hell of a lot more...

My mum's been through worse though, she was on a plane that landed all wrong and had to abort like the one in the crosswinds thing. Apparently people were screaming and crapping themselves and everything, not good.

this is why i don't fly

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