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Re: Burial Bass
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:51 pm
by kidlogic
Like spinning plates wrote:I'm using reason 3 by the way.
This is part of your problem. I find it incredibly hard to get reason bass to not sound muffled and to sound clear. So much so that Ive pretty much stopped using it. Ive heard that Reason 4 sounds much better, but havent heard if for myself yet.
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:55 pm
by cursedc
tempest wrote:lilt wrote:(i was attempting to point out that the quote makes just as much sense if you reverse it)
I'm looking through the eyes of Stanley Pain, they're not rose tinted specs either.
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:37 pm
by slothrop
sleepgolfer wrote:I've read an interview with Burial somewhere on the net where he was saying that all he was trying to do is mimic El-B's sound and that dark old skool garage vibe and ended up sounding different because, well, he's not El-B...
Good point Auan and good point here too.
Re: Burial Bass
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:32 pm
by twatty vagitis
kidlogic wrote:I find it incredibly hard to get reason bass to not sound muffled and to sound clear. So much so that Ive pretty much stopped using it.
That's because you're a fucktard...
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:03 pm
by 3stripe
If you have the patience to program your own Subtractor patch you can get loads of sweet bass out of it. Thor is pretty nifty in that department too.
Re: Burial Bass
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:13 pm
by drifterman_
twatty vagitis wrote:kidlogic wrote:I find it incredibly hard to get reason bass to not sound muffled and to sound clear. So much so that Ive pretty much stopped using it.
That's because you're a fucktard...
Na...
I had this same problem.
Use the Spider Audio stuff + EQ + Scream + Reverb and you can get good sounds out of it.
All this Anti-Reason stuff is offkey. I don't understand why people seem to think its a bad program. True the sound quality ain't as good as some, but whats so hard about rewiring? Also you can get great sound out of it if you spend time learning what does what and little techniques here and there. Same with any other software really...
Re: Burial Bass
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:30 pm
by kato!
kidlogic wrote:Like spinning plates wrote:I'm using reason 3 by the way.
This is part of your problem. I find it incredibly hard to get reason bass to not sound muffled and to sound clear. So much so that Ive pretty much stopped using it. Ive heard that Reason 4 sounds much better, but havent heard if for myself yet.
That'll be the dirty waveforms in Reason, and that's also what contributes to Reason's sound, what makes it identifiable.
Re: Burial Bass
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:57 pm
by TUNE
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:32 am
by therapist
abstractsound wrote:i guess i didnt articulate my point well enough because i dont see how the two could have been interchanged. what i meant is in synthesis you are building a sound. you start with something boring and inorganic and the modulate it until it has character and becomes what you are looking for. few people approach guitar in this regard. to get to the point of wanting to get new sound out of the guitar you probably already have to know some music theory and how to play a guitar, but in synthesis you really dont need any music theory background and you dont need to know how to play the piano to be able to create sounds you want to hear. you have to understand what all the different modulations and filters are doing so you can make them do what you want them too. its kind of like the guitar sound off the amp is your original oscillator. if you want to start running your signal through filters and effect pedals then you are talking more along the lines of synthesis.
that may not make any sense to some people but thats how i look at the situation and why i think it might do some more good if they just dig into it themselves and see what happens
That's just not true. These are all just
things that make noises. No level of theory is needed, may well make you a wicked player but it doesn't make the slightest difference to what sounds you can make.
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:05 pm
by serox
r wrote:Auan wrote:Bollocks to those answers. I didn't learn to play guitar by picking up a strat and playing whatever came into my head until it sounded good. I ripped off Hendrix, Dimebag and the Radiohead guy for years. You don't learn to cook by throwing whatever's in the cupboard into a frying pan and seeing what happens, or learn to drive by jumping in a car and tearing down the motorway.
legendary quote, thanks mate
This.
Next time someone tries to tell me to stop trying to copy someones riddum I am going to lay this down!
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:07 pm
by serox
sleepgolfer wrote:I've read an interview with Burial somewhere on the net where he was saying that all he was trying to do is mimic El-B's sound and that dark old skool garage vibe and ended up sounding different because, well, he's not El-B...
Thats right. He was trying to copy EL-B/Ghost records.
Burial only uses samples last I heard. He rips everything from Youtube and old records.
The basslines you are on about are oldskool Reese basslines with LP filters/EQ done in Soundforge. They were prob done on hardware in the first place.
Re: Burial Bass
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:50 pm
by mondays child
Sample stuff.
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:33 am
by trike12
auan wrote:Bollocks to those answers. I didn't learn to play guitar by picking up a strat and playing whatever came into my head until it sounded good. I ripped off Hendrix, Dimebag and the Radiohead guy for years. You don't learn to cook by throwing whatever's in the cupboard into a frying pan and seeing what happens, or learn to drive by jumping in a car and tearing down the motorway.
well i learned to make music from trying whatever.
Re: Burial Bass
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:42 pm
by stereotactic
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by trike12 ยป Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:33 am
auan wrote:
Bollocks to those answers. I didn't learn to play guitar by picking up a strat and playing whatever came into my head until it sounded good. I ripped off Hendrix, Dimebag and the Radiohead guy for years. You don't learn to cook by throwing whatever's in the cupboard into a frying pan and seeing what happens, or learn to drive by jumping in a car and tearing down the motorway.
well i learned to make music from trying whatever.
Surely there is an argument for both points though? A balance of fucking about and trying stuff until something clicks, and learning techniques used by others to get certain sounds, which can then be adapted to suit your own style?
Personally I fall into the 'fucking about' camp, purely because A: I'm a noob and still totally suck, and B: every time I try following someone's method, it ends up being craptastic.