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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:23 pm
by addict
for me its learning how to make music....
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:51 pm
by FSTZ
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:52 pm
by FSTZ
two oh one wrote:I need to work out how to make formulaic dancefloor nonsense where you just add another percussive element every 8 bars, or twiddle an low pass filter and then call it progression...
I'm constantly fighting off the instinct to write tunes with verses, choruses, bridges and middle eights.

haha!
you got me there buddy guy!
(you are sooo sarcastic, the others can't even tell how much of a piss take it is

)
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:57 pm
by fixation
as i have just started its really just gettin confortable with FL, and starting to understand how to build a song, and just general music theory knowledge, i used to play drums and saxaphone so it shouldnt be too hard too get back into musical mode

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:15 pm
by two oh one
unklefesta wrote:two oh one wrote:I need to work out how to make formulaic dancefloor nonsense where you just add another percussive element every 8 bars, or twiddle an low pass filter and then call it progression...
I'm constantly fighting off the instinct to write tunes with verses, choruses, bridges and middle eights.

haha!
you got me there buddy guy!
(you are sooo sarcastic, the others can't even tell how much of a piss take it is

)
No, I'm really fighting it. I usually write vocal tunes to strict tune formula. It's difficult for me breaking from that.
I used to do it the other way, but I got into the 'proper' stuff and have a lot of difficulty shaking it.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:24 pm
by FSTZ
well, I struggle in the exact opposite direction
I could deffo benefit from a more "songlike" formulae
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:25 pm
by two oh one
unklefesta wrote:well, I struggle in the exact opposite direction
I could deffo benefit from a more "songlike" formulae
We should swap!

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:27 pm
by corpsey
Apart from everything?
At the moment I'm concerned with making the drums/bass really rhythmically solid/animated, particularly the drums. Its really hard to make drums that sound really solid and energetic, with swing, but not too loose or weak. Been listening to a lot of house/techno/garage recently and I'm trying to work out how grooves are created within the drum track to add to it.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:36 pm
by abstractsound
They way I'm try is to spend as little time on the loop as possible, and not falling into the trap of listening to it for ages, your mind becomes accustomed and it becomes hard to make anythnig else work with it[/quote]
yeah man thats what ive discovered.. sometimes i cant settle on simple and start trying to fill in the empty spaces with things and i get into a perpetual 16 bar loop
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:37 pm
by tempest
Forever trying to get my drums bigger, crispier, slinkier and other describing words for dope drums.
Also to start delving deeper into FM synthesis.
Perfecting song structure is up there too. Creating interest, building and dropping energy.
Just to keep jamming and having fun with it all
Keep at it all you bedroom beatmakers, shake up the walls

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:51 pm
by monksta
turning beats into tracks

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:13 am
by uproot
Next thing I'm working on is creating different sounds that evolve together without noticable transition... using Pulse width modulation is a big help
elgato wrote:i dunno if this is a technical term, but groove and sound sculpting - manipulating the dynamics of samples so as to create more cohesive grooves
there are two parts - learning the techniques to have more control over dynamics, and mentally getting my head thinking in a different way about the way elements of a track relate to each other rhythmically, and how they can be used to create different grooves
Check out Spectrasonics Stylus... "Groove" is in its description
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:04 am
by djake
more about compression and eq
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:23 am
by habitualbeatscamp
two oh one wrote:I need to work out how to make formulaic dancefloor nonsense where you just add another percussive element every 8 bars, or twiddle an low pass filter and then call it progression...
To be fuckin completely honest.. I haven't the slightest clue what I am doing when it comes to music. I just make stuff and upload it to MySpace.
I think I put alot of stress on myself to make each track a banger, and it has sucked some of the fun out of it.
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:38 am
by chunkie
the mix!
just a question of spending the time and getting the mechanics right
as for structure, need to get out of the 'song' mindset, intro, verse, chorus, verse chorus, bridge, etc etc
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:42 am
by forensix (mcr)
mic placement and recording real instruments although I have moved opposite a pretty well respected studio so I am going to book some sessions (I know some fucking awesome singers and musicians) maybe I'll pick up a few things from those sessions
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:44 am
by dynamixuk
forensix (mcr) wrote:mic placement and recording real instruments although I have moved opposite a pretty well respected studio so I am going to book some sessions (I know some fucking awesome singers and musicians) maybe I'll pick up a few things from those sessions
got some books and notes from uni you can nab mate
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:46 am
by toiminto
i want to get some binaural mics and do some binaural recordings
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:54 am
by elgato
uproot wrote:elgato wrote:i dunno if this is a technical term, but groove and sound sculpting - manipulating the dynamics of samples so as to create more cohesive grooves
there are two parts - learning the techniques to have more control over dynamics, and mentally getting my head thinking in a different way about the way elements of a track relate to each other rhythmically, and how they can be used to create different grooves
Check out Spectrasonics Stylus... "Groove" is in its description
that thing looks odd... whats the crack? you put it on a bus routing all the tracks you want to bring together in the groove and then process them together? is there something im missing?
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:07 am
by ozols man
i would like to learn how to get ur singers to pull their fingers out their bums and come up with some recordable material.