BLCK BOYS.

[delendi]

grime doesn't just have to be about 'creps', 'brown', and 'whips' u know

yes it does

cool. . .

but really, this is the single most positive thing to come out of the grime scene.

no it's not. there's been conscious grime before. and what elements said... i'm all up for the positivity but i hate shit that draws attention to race all the time. ways to make black boys feel like they're different and separate from everyone else... pretty fuckin stupid.

[echo wanderer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooarT3cn8_o

[tappy tippon]

grime doesn't just have to be about 'creps', 'brown', and 'whips' u know

yes it does

cool. . .

but really, this is the single most positive thing to come out of the grime scene.

no it's not. there's been conscious grime before. and what elements said... i'm all up for the positivity but i hate shit that draws attention to race all the time. ways to make black boys feel like they're different and separate from everyone else... pretty fuckin stupid.

yeh, that was my innitial reaction, i never really bought into the whole 'glass ceiling' thing myself, always took more of an existential approach whereby we're all responsible for our own decisions and consequently accountable for however our lives turn out as a result (esp in the western world) but then i actually *listened* to the bars these guys were spitting, and regardless of whether or not it exists in my reality, or yours, feeling 'different' and 'separate' is very much part of their reality. . .if that's the way they see THEIR lives, who are you to call it stupid?

sorry, not deliberately trying to be confrontational or anything, but i honestly don't think people should have such strong convictions about something they know absolutely nothing about.

[tappy tippon]

what's with all the negativity??

the guy's just trying to do something positive to inspire young black kids. Initially from the title i thought i'd hate it, i was like great, another stupid youtube video promoting racial tension amongst today's cyber youth. Then i actually watched and listened to it, aswell as some of the remixes, and fair play, it's not the best beat in the world, but some of the bars are deep and actually quite inspirational, not only for black people, but for humanity.

grime doesn't just have to be about 'creps', 'brown', and 'whips' u know

I see your point there.But I see Del's point on it too.Upliftment is good,but I wouldn't spit lyrics about safe sex over a gangsta rap beat.

lol why not?

Hmm...

I wonder...

WEAR PROPHYLACTICS BEFORE YOU HIT THAT SHIT
IF SHE AIN'T ON DA PILL,SHE AIN'T NUTHIN' BUT A BITCH
UNPROTECTED FUCKING MAKES ME WANNA BUST
A JIMMY CAP UP IN DAT PUSSY WHEN I GET THAT LUST
FUCK ALL DEM NI**AS THAT DON'T WRAP THE COCK
THEY ILLOGICAL...YO!WHERE'S DR.SPOCK?
MUTHA FUCKIN' THUG LIFE GOT 'EM DISRESPECTIN' HO'S MAN
SO DO YOUR SKINS A FAVOUR AND ROLL WID A TROJAN

I could have the name "Lil' Protected Playa" and call the tune "Crunkin' With A Condom".

Echo Wanderer, i've been up for over twenty-four hours counting now, and that genuinely made me LOL. Thank u

[soldjaaa_chik]

grime doesn't just have to be about 'creps', 'brown', and 'whips' u know

yes it does

cool. . .

but really, this is the single most positive thing to come out of the grime scene.

no it's not. there's been conscious grime before. and what elements said... i'm all up for the positivity but i hate shit that draws attention to race all the time. ways to make black boys feel like they're different and separate from everyone else... pretty fuckin stupid.

yeh, that was my innitial reaction, i never really bought into the whole 'glass ceiling' thing myself, always took more of an existential approach whereby we're all responsible for our own decisions and consequently accountable for however our lives turn out as a result (esp in the western world) but then i actually *listened* to the bars these guys were spitting, and regardless of whether or not it exists in my reality, or yours, feeling 'different' and 'separate' is very much part of their reality. . .if that's the way they see THEIR lives, who are you to call it stupid?

sorry, not deliberately trying to be confrontational or anything, but i honestly don't think people should have such strong convictions about something they know absolutely nothing about.

And who are you to say you know how "they" meaning black boys feel? Have you actually sat down and spoke to a group of young black boys? The thing is, they arnt seperate, humans are humans it doesnt matter what colour or disorder you have.

Everyone feels *different* at some point in their life because everyone is not the same, but you need to get over that or you will think that bad things happen to you because you are "different" and this may not be the case.

Grime never used to be about this and it isnt about this. Fair deals you want to support your race but is this helping "If your born black you've got to work harder these days"?? Surely thats automatically making black boys think because they are BLACK they ARE DIFFERENT and things are HARDER for you.Bollocks. They also say "we're a target".....

Half of the mcs on here talk about yeah u can be a doctor u can do this u can do that, but in another tune you will hear them talking about how they gunna fuck ur girl bareback and draw for the strap ect ect.....

PRATICE WA U PREACH.

I beliv it shouldn't be trying to bring just your race together, it should be trying to bring EVERYONE together.

[vonboyage]

Lol @ missing out the A in black...

Them conspiracies there.

[soldjaaa_chik]

Lol @ missing out the A in black...

Them conspiracies there.

lol. didnt even clock that untill now.

[umkhontowesizwe]

I can just imagine if there was a song called 'white boys' aimed at inner city white youth. I'm sure it would be promoted to the fullest for its positive message .

LOL @ 'if you're born black you've got to work harder'. Acting like they just stepped off the boat in the 60s or something. THINGS HAVE CHANGED, GET OVER IT.

[vonboyage]

Lol @ this

LOL @ 'if you're born black you've got to work harder'. Acting like they just stepped off the boat in the 60s or something. THINGS HAVE CHANGED, GET OVER IT.

says:
do u feel different or seperate because u are black


Von says:
erm..
Von says:
no
Von says:
i believe i can achieve anything i put my mind to
Von says:
its the parents who install those thoughts into their children as theyre growing up
Von says:
"ur a black man, its guna be harder"
Von says:
so theyre guna have a chip on their shoulder for life.
Von says:
in reality.. life is what the individual makes it.

[deamonds]

this tune sucks dick purely because bashy's in it...

regardless of the content

[devilstator]

Corny beat, but at least it's got a good message.

Is it just me or is that baby damn ugly? Huge ears too

[tappy tippon]

yes it does

cool. . .

but really, this is the single most positive thing to come out of the grime scene.

no it's not. there's been conscious grime before. and what elements said... i'm all up for the positivity but i hate shit that draws attention to race all the time. ways to make black boys feel like they're different and separate from everyone else... pretty fuckin stupid.

yeh, that was my innitial reaction, i never really bought into the whole 'glass ceiling' thing myself, always took more of an existential approach whereby we're all responsible for our own decisions and consequently accountable for however our lives turn out as a result (esp in the western world) but then i actually *listened* to the bars these guys were spitting, and regardless of whether or not it exists in my reality, or yours, feeling 'different' and 'separate' is very much part of their reality. . .if that's the way they see THEIR lives, who are you to call it stupid?

sorry, not deliberately trying to be confrontational or anything, but i honestly don't think people should have such strong convictions about something they know absolutely nothing about.

And who are you to say you know how "they" meaning black boys feel? Have you actually sat down and spoke to a group of young black boys?

Yes.

I'm not dismissing the rest of what u said btw, we share many of the same sentiments

[bellybelle]

LOL @ 'if you're born black you've got to work harder'. Acting like they just stepped off the boat in the 60s or something. THINGS HAVE CHANGED, GET OVER IT.

I'm sorry but that right there is the singlehanded reason racism still persists today. Instead of it being the 1960's and people wondering why these people are complaining at all, now its the 2000's and because a few laws have been passed and there are minstrels up in diamonds rappin or shootin' hoops on the television, people think obviously everything is better now and we all need to STFU.

It is *WAY* better than eras before but by no means is racism gone. And giving someone props because they survive doesn't mean that there is no struggle.

Not to use but will use for the sake of argument, I'll use me. I'm a black girl in the US who grew up through the era of the Cosby Show and positive hip-hop as well as all that community-negative gangsta rap. I've never lived my life defined by my race. I have lived my life based on things I like to do and people I like to be around.

As much as I am unfettered by this, I have also noticed that things generally are more difficult due to a combination of being a person of color and a woman. I'm not gonna lie and bullshit you. Its truth. If you're a smart Other, you have to be overintelligent just to be seen as equal and even if you've spent your life inside a classroom or numerous academic structures, instead of being praised for the content or whatever, you're complimented on your articulation, i.e. "You speak so well."

I went to college. Never got a scholarship based on my race. So why is it that when I talk about my college experience, the overwhelming consensus is that without affirmative action, I would have never gotten in, as if to say that if I'm in college, it was merely because of someone giving me a chance because I was black as opposed to actually being seen as being equal to a non-black person?

When I watch television, whenever there is a scene of a black family on tv, there is a black man and son and a mixed race wife and daughter. If this is equality, why do the females have to be half of something else in order to be on television advertising equality?

If racism wasn't a huge problem, perhaps the ratios if black people in prisons would be leveled a bit more, for comprising app 75% of the US prison populations while comprising 10% of the US population seems somewhat off.

And this doesn't even speak for the visual problem of being a black person. I'm 5' tall. Not threatening in the least really. So why do I automatically strike fear in people enough that I've had people cross streets to avoid walking near me, lock car doors, taxi drivers blatantly refuse to pick me up? Last week, I sat with these blond ladies when I was placed there by the waitress. One of the girls looked at me, and immediately put her purse on the ground by her foot. Was that really necessary? But thats my reality, no matter how many friends I have from different races and how many non-black men I've dated. And no, they don't all understand. No they don't all assume this is real because its not their experience. It would be like me telling a kid whose parents were drug addicts that he obviously had a better experience than mine because my parents were divorced and his were still together. My divorced parents have nothing to do with his still-married, drug addict parents. And I can't be so ignorant to tell him he doesn't have the right to bitch because at least his parents are still married.


I mean, yeah, we can all use the same toilets. We can all buy groceries from the same store. And some of us (1-5%) can make it as an athlete or a rapper or even an elected official. But how this translates as "Everything is fine now. Lrn2Race," is beyond me.

Get over it? Even with the best of intentions and applications, I think this mindset is juvenile at best. The rectification of centuries worth of oppression and social conditioning does not happen in less than one. It hasn't even been a full century since the 1960's. Miracle workers you're expecting, which is only slightly personally hilarious because black people were seen as less than for so many centuries but are now chastised for not being superheros in the ability to fix that and surpass in 50 years.

And seriously, why is it a bad thing for such a positive message to go out? Why are people less comfortable with the idea of people being positive towards their community? Would you rather the alternative, where rappers are pumping the community full of "Hate them ho's, hustle, and kill if a n*gga looks at yo shoes too long"?! Ain't this a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

If its a problem with accessibility, and some of the non-black audience feels disenfranchised because the message doesn't directly correlate to them, then I offer this solution:

Do what I do whenever I see a movie with a famous white couple who are surmounting all odds to find love with each other, or when I see a music video about a white woman who misses her child, or about a white man grieving the loss of his parents in an accident: Take the message and apply it to your own life as if it is a human quotient.

I have to overlook the fact that I'm not white all the time in order to sympathize/empathize with the message. And I certainly don't watch a movie starring Angelina Jolie and say, "Well, I wish I could relate to this heartwarming story...but since its not directly about me because she's not black, I guess I'mna have to toss this out with the bathwater."


My probably unpopular $0.02

ps I'm not sure how things are in other countries. I'm speaking merely from a US resident perspective. I've heard racial tensions aren't as high in other lands but then again, perhaps not.

[umkhontowesizwe]

ps I'm not sure how things are in other countries. I'm speaking merely from a US resident perspective. I've heard racial tensions aren't as high in other lands but then again, perhaps not.

Your post was insightful, but that’s pretty much it right there.

I can’t really judge what it’s like in the US as I’ve only been there a few times but as a black person who has spent the vast majority of my life in the UK I can safely say that I’ve never had to ‘work harder’ than anyone else to achieve things. I’m sure any of my black friends would say the same if they were asked. Sure racist views still persist (and realistically will never be eradicated) but not nearly to the extent that this song is portraying. Interestingly enough I hear more racist views coming from the ‘black community’ than anywhere else.

[bellybelle]

Interestingly enough I hear more racist views coming from the ‘black community’ than anywhere else.

Same here. I've received more scrutiny for the path my life has chosen from within the community than on the outside. I spend my time SMH at both. Because outside the black community, racism is a non-issue. But inside the community, its such an issue that its crippling. While I can't say that it doesn't affect me (race that is), I also can say that I live app 95% of my time not remembering. I mean, it doesn't really factor into my conversations or reasoning. And when it comes to dating outside? Lord there is no end to the bs on either side.

I guess thats why I only follow my own path. I'm going to be making someone unhappy at all times. But its good to err on the path of fuxxing stereotypes every single day.

[delendi]

this tune sucks dick purely because bashy's in it...

regardless of the content

someone tried to give me bashy's album free today... i declined

[vonboyage]

this tune sucks dick purely because bashy's in it...

regardless of the content

someone tried to give me bashy's album free today... i declined

I would of been very disappointed if you took it.

[soldjaaa_chik]

this tune sucks dick purely because bashy's in it...

regardless of the content

someone tried to give me bashy's album free today... i declined

I would of been very disappointed if you took it.

Bashy rides a bus.

why the hate anyway?

[MissBrass]

damn haters!
and honestly, no matter what y'all want to say theres RACISM EVERYWHERE. From the mother wanting her son to marry an italian like him, yet having black friends. To ME looking at a certain person and assuming something, just by their appearance. NO one can say they have never assumed something from someones appearance. Its everywhere, and chances are it will never end. However, I find there to be more racism amongst our own. I have a lot of black friends who make fun of each other for being way too dark, or praising one for being light-skinned. I can't say I have never said anything racist, but it was out of pure ignorance, and now, I know better than to judge a book.

[drksteppa]

WTF is this? this shit is...WACK!