I think I can see it returning...Docwra wrote:Still waiting for the next snare. Last estimated timing was approximately 2 hours and 42 minutes ago! If anyone has seen this snare please pm me.......
ABBmusic wrote:Am I missing something? is Skrillex too main stream for you guys?
bEErz wrote:ye i spose it is...whiteboy marlow noah D orien rusko cluekid skream cotti jakes itchy robot 6blocc caspa clouds benga toasty boy darkstar distance were the main culprits to my claim. i guess if you like the different dubstep then you can do what you like in the sequencer.Slothrop wrote:Tbf, that may say more about your tastes in dubstep than about dubstep as a whole. That may be what you like, but going through a stack of my favourite tunes I'd say maybe 50% or less of them have the snare on 3. So do what you like, really.bEErz wrote:going thru a list of about 100 of my recently added dubstep tunes in itunes i could only find one with a snare that doesn't fall on the 3rd beat (Hijak - Tears) so as to how "set in stone" it is...id say the majority of producers follow it
Lots of Horsepower stuff has that soca thing of kick-kick-snare kick-snare with the snares on 2.5 and 4. And I'm sure I've heard a fair bit of vaguely halfstep type stuff with the snare on 2.5 or 3.5 rather than 3.Press wrote:basically as i see it theres 3 main places youll commonly find snares in dubstep. on the 3rd beat, on the 4th beat or on the 2nd and 4th beat. anything beyind that or in addition to those generally will be ghost hits or accents to the main snares. if you stray from those basic places yoru gonna end up with some thing "different" not different to dubstep as a genre but different to the normal pattern, and may or may not sound good in the mix.
I personally prefer mixing, and listening to people mix tunes with different snare placements etc, makes the whole thing seem more rhythmic and 'skippy' leaves more room for creative mixing, chopping between the two etc.Slothrop wrote:I don't DJ, but does it make that much difference from a mixing point of view where the snare falls once the tune drops? Surely the thing that makes a tune easier or harder to mix is whether or not it gives you a fairly sensible pulse to work with during the intro?
wasnt saying all those ppl wer half step....just those ppl made all the tunes i was looking thru wen i was searching for non compliance to the "3rd beat" stigma attached to sum artists. the toasty boy track was "live life feel it" btw which dus have a half step beatCFour wrote:lmao at toasty being halfstep
to be honest i really dont know much about the scene. out of the music i listen to and make, dubstep is pretty much a side-interest. im here to learnSlothrop wrote:This is totally totally totally at odds with the the music I listen to. Some people prefer half step and some people prefer other beats, but to say that dubstep has to be halfstep and if it's not got a snare on the third it's not dubstep is just plain wrong. I mean, there are so, so many classic tunes by Kode 9, Mala, D1, Burial, Horsepower, El-B, Skream and so on that don't fit the halfstep template, not to mention newer stuff by TRG, 2562, Geiom, Dusk & Blackdown, Martyn...d1rt1989 wrote:imo the snare falling on the third beat is what defines dubstep and separates it from the most similar styles to it, ie forms of garage, breakcore etc.
dubstep is of course evolving, and i dont want to get into an argument about pigeonholing, but it'd probably be hard for your tune to be accepted as dubstep if the snares were on 2 and 4 for the whole tune.
As I say, if you prefer halfstep then that's cool, but if you think it defines dubstep then either you don't know much about the scene or it's history or you're using dubstep to mean something other than what it is.
It's cool.d1rt1989 wrote:to be honest i really dont know much about the scene. out of the music i listen to and make, dubstep is pretty much a side-interest. im here to learn
A lot of the most visible stuff is halfstep, but it's a long way from being the defining feature of dubstep. Buy this record and learn: http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=23215
CFour wrote:
I personally prefer mixing, and listening to people mix tunes with different snare placements etc, makes the whole thing seem more rhythmic and 'skippy' leaves more room for creative mixing, chopping between the two etc.
d1rt1989 wrote:to be honest i really dont know much about the scene. out of the music i listen to and make, dubstep is pretty much a side-interest. im here to learnSlothrop wrote:This is totally totally totally at odds with the the music I listen to. Some people prefer half step and some people prefer other beats, but to say that dubstep has to be halfstep and if it's not got a snare on the third it's not dubstep is just plain wrong. I mean, there are so, so many classic tunes by Kode 9, Mala, D1, Burial, Horsepower, El-B, Skream and so on that don't fit the halfstep template, not to mention newer stuff by TRG, 2562, Geiom, Dusk & Blackdown, Martyn...d1rt1989 wrote:imo the snare falling on the third beat is what defines dubstep and separates it from the most similar styles to it, ie forms of garage, breakcore etc.
dubstep is of course evolving, and i dont want to get into an argument about pigeonholing, but it'd probably be hard for your tune to be accepted as dubstep if the snares were on 2 and 4 for the whole tune.
As I say, if you prefer halfstep then that's cool, but if you think it defines dubstep then either you don't know much about the scene or it's history or you're using dubstep to mean something other than what it is.
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