Dubstepforum.com

£10 Bag wrote:

spencerTron wrote:

xTheWiddler wrote:spencer what program is that? never seen it and im on a mac

looks basic but might be fun

i'm on a mac, it's Reaktor (that picture is under the hood of a basic oscillator) eveything i make is with reaktor (seriously everything, used it for a couple of years now best thing i ever bought)...The only limit is your own imagination with what synths/drum machines/sequencers you want to build, but be prepared to give up a good six months if you have no previous knowledge of DSP or Modular synthesis. maths and algebra is handy aswell. depends how deep you wanna dig for sound/sound design.

and it's far from basic, you can go deeper and build your own sound engine type stuff. right i'm gonna stop promoting it. i don't work for them either.

fuck that for a laugh!

Exactly what I thought!


Big ups on using that though must take quite a bit of brain power.

Serox wrote:man that pic with all the lines is not what music is about imo

but that is how your synths are made which you use before they are lockd up in code and given a fancy user interface! (graphical modular programming, C,C+, Java)...and say that to all the big names that use Reaktor... (Skream/Aphex Twin/SquarePusher/Autechre/NiN/etc) and all the other musicians around the world who use it (aswell as max/msp and PureData) to create new amazing instruments and sounds.

i've owned reaktor for a very long time, it's the only thing i make music with (apart from guitar in my band)

hobbyists and musicians want to dig for new sounds which are unheard of by other people and which current softsynths cannot make. Programming synthesizers (via Java or Modular programming enviroments, C,C+) is one way of doing this. it's not for everybody, but it's certainly an alternative to the novel technology and synths provided to you by the industry which are knock off's of synths and sound design techniques which are popularized by the big names in electronic music. there's nothing wrong in settling for those synths but by the time you have received them, the thinkers and the doer's (the innovators and big names) have already moved on...and the route you take to follow, provided to you, is probably the longest route you could take to audio innovation.

Finding ways of creating new sound ("that pic with all those lines" as you refer to it) is one aspect of what music is about, it depends how far you want to look for it. And Like i say, there is nothing wrong with settling for what you are presented with or spending a week programming a 6 oscillator synth from scratch, which i did for no reason whatsoever other than for the fun of it, only to never use it again. Hopefully you get the point as to why some people go to such lengths.

Alot of people take sound design and instrument design very very feckin seriously...you need to realise that. and then understand where the synths you use come from.

right, rant over.

truth ^^^

It's definitely what music is all about. Those cool presets have to start somewhere...

Props to the mad scientist types.

I'm going to buy max/msp/jitter one of these days. Once I have some free time.

I figure it should be enough to keep me busy for the rest of my life.

smutek wrote:truth ^^^

It's definitely what music is all about. Those cool presets have to start somewhere...

Props to the mad scientist types.

I'm going to buy max/msp/jitter one of these days. Once I have some free time.

I figure it should be enough to keep me busy for the rest of my life.

i would go as far as saying reaktor has changed my life, even physically, growing a hunch building shit.

for the record, Massive (the synth which alot of people use) was prototyped in reaktor. i'll also say synths all synths i use including the synth in my sig (juno copy) i can go under the hood and add all sorts to it for extra sound...like i say, it's how deep you wanna dig, i spent so long producing with stock instruments, it just wasn't enough for me.

It's definitely NOT what music is ALL about. But it IS cool!

exactly. it's the one under the sick bass button.

hee hee hee

smutek wrote: I'm going to buy max/msp/jitter one of these days. Once I have some free time.

Totally worth it, but it does take a long time before you can really do anything with it. I have built many a rediculous FM synth in it though due to the fact I can have as many oscilators going to as many others/themsleves as I want and put envelopes between every connection. HUGE pads

spencerTron wrote:

Serox wrote:and say that to all the big names that use Reaktor... (Skream/Aphex Twin/SquarePusher/Autechre/NiN/etc) and all the other musicians around the world who use it (aswell as max/msp and PureData) to create new amazing instruments and sounds.

see this....

http://www.idmforums.com/showthread.php?t=3482

http://forum.watmm.com/index.php?showtopic=33657

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr04/a ... techre.htm

http://www.recordlabelrecords.org/software.html

simple open source programs such as audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/) literally have a "generate" tab with white noise and tones at whatever freq. and waveforms that you need.

d1rt1989 wrote:3xosc does actually have a white noise button :p

yeah, its the 4th button of the wave form, never found a use for it yet, might try this sweep thing when i get home tho

as the man said, in logic there is a white noise button! it's on the ES P synth

(although i generally make some white noise with that, bounce it, then load it into an EXS24 and stack up several instances of it for a bigger sound. also the filters on the EXS are better than those on the ES P i reckons.)