Dubstep Types/Styles

solace · Post by **solace** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:01 am

TNT wrote:one of the beautys of Dubstep is that it is all "Dubstep"

no need for silly sub genres, yeah different sounds and styles are about, but dividing it is not the one...it can take influences from any genre...

say a tune had a sample from country and western (it could!?)
would that be "countryandwesternstep"

id say you could catergorize producers and labels are offering different sides of it, but its all under the same blanket

garage failed when it started becoming split up and categorised

Someone brought this up on doa a while back, and it would be called cuntstep :p

nimbus · Post by **nimbus** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:05 pm

Jonnyrebel wrote:I would refer you something iposted up a while ago but i cant be bothered and it got quite heated.

Bun zero is spot on on both counts.

the less we talk about it the better though...

safe

I agree sub genres can have negative effects....however there is a fear on this forum of acknowledging there are different styles of dubstep.

Of course dubstep is dubstep and that is the best way we can all continue things but i dont think the bredder starting the thread was trying to pidgeonhole.

bunzer0 · Post by **bunzer0** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:12 pm

everyone is big enuf to make the differences whe selecting tunes or simply when listening to them.
Makin categories on this forum is sterile and useless imho.
It is obvious there are different styles brought by each relevant producers.
They all have their way to make dubstep.
The ting which is stimulating categories is there are too many copycats or followers who are tryin to imitate the style of any forward thinking producers.
It makes more tunes in same style, mood, sounds, ideas,... then as there are too many tunes in one direction peeps are tempted to make categories...
Keep it real and u wont need categories

IMHO

bedward · Post by **bedward** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:27 pm

"dubstep" is a sub genre.

ashley · Post by **ashley** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:52 pm

I wouldnt say Dubstep has sub genres, more about different personalities.

bunzer0 · Post by **bunzer0** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:55 pm

originally it was a garage sub genre that's true
but now as the spectrum of influences is sooooo large am definitely thinking dubstep is a genre of its own.

ashley · Post by **ashley** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:59 pm

BunZer0 wrote:originally it was a garage sub genre that's true
but now as the spectrum of influences is sooooo large am definitely thinking dubstep is a genre of its own.

Obviously. Has its own culture too.

bedward · Post by **bedward** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:35 pm

"garage" is a sub genre.

bunzer0 · Post by **bunzer0** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:40 pm

Bedward wrote:"garage" is a sub genre.

everything is coming from somewhere u are right

threnody · Post by **threnody** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:41 pm

BunZer0 wrote:originally it was a garage sub genre that's true
but now as the spectrum of influences is sooooo large am definitely thinking dubstep is a genre of its own.

I think this is intersting....when does a sub genre become a genre? Just on this line of thinking would restricting dubstep to just being dubstep restrict development later on (say in 5 years) by which time a sub-genre could have gained enough popularity to become a genre in it's own right?

Would this lead to dubstep being a constantly refreshing and developing super genre or would it mean that there was nothing to follow on from dubstep in the way it did from Garage etc...?

My personal view is that DJs make genres by playing what they are feeling.

bunzer0 · Post by **bunzer0** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:51 pm

goin from sub genre to a genre has nothing to do with popularity imho
it is more related to artistical influences
at the beginning dubstep was refering to garage all the time, even in halfstep the drumz elements were always reminding garage with the way how hats and percus were built.
The sounds used were also refering to garage.
Now u got peeps coming from a lot of different backgrounds
if u compare some really hard dubstep made by guys coming from breakcore or hard d&b it is still dubstep but there are no more references to garage at all.
When u hear a Metallica dubstep refix i cant hear any garage in there

So dubstep is now a genre cause it gather much more influences than the original garage input
my 2 cents

kanobi · Post by **kanobi** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:24 pm

Ahh semantics!

No matter what a genre is called most people, myself included, will break it down futher in order to communicate a particular essence of a track or artist. If someone was to say to me they heard a great track by someone i'd press them for more infomation, was it techy? rootsy? etc.

Where as, if someone told me their was a new dubstep night somewhere, id accept it as just that, and hopefully expect a variety of dubstep on the night.

Dubstep has become the catchall term for a variety of different sounds, some of which are poles apart (anyone fancy mixing burial with broken note?;) but thats fine because at this point the term dubstep has passed a point of recognition where people understand its meaning.

watson420 · Post by **watson420** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:22 pm

i seperate my playlist this way

1)Filthy shit
2)Glitchy
3)Mellow
4)UK
5)Violent

then theres

6)Drumstep
7)Junglednb
8)Liquiddnb
9)Glitch hop (vibes)
10)Glitch hop (trance)
11)Moombah
12)Happy Electro
13)Dark Electro
14)Psytrance

im not saying this is how it should be, cuz no one ever told me how to seperate them,, every dj should have the right feel when they open up thier program.

Molzie · Post by **Molzie** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:07 pm

What's the diff between "filthy shit" and "violent"?

random thread to resurrect for your first post btw.

BreakingMoves · Post by **BreakingMoves** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:05 pm

Molzie wrote:What's the diff between "filthy shit" and "violent"?

Yea I'm learning the difference betw genres and was wondering the same thing. Some of your splits seem very similar to one another.

Eplo · Post by **Eplo** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:33 pm

haha watson

-[2]DAY_- · Post by **-[2]DAY_-** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:42 pm

watson420 wrote:every dj should have the right feel when they open up thier program.

hahahaha quotes from the future. just funny how in the 90's that would have made absolutely no sense, and now its taken for granted

Maccaveli · Post by **Maccaveli** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:29 am

Wait, what? How is UK mutually exclusive to filthy and mellow?

Eplo · Post by **Eplo** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:39 am

9)Glitch hop (vibes)
10)Glitch hop (trance)

lol?

freakcity · Post by **freakcity** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:02 pm

tl;dr Dubstep (SBTRKT), Brostep (Skrillex), Drumstep (Datsky).

When I'm separating my crates, I separate my dubstep songs into 3 genres. I normally put dub and garage based tracks into a generic "Dubstep" crate. If there are other mainstream/hip-hop songs that I can spin out too, they normally go here (I'm think ****** In Paris here). Saying I make a seperate crate for Drumstep is obvious, because it's at a whole different bpm range. It has to be a different genre. And I make a crate for Brostep. You can't mix it well with calmer tracks.

If there was any sounds I'd like to see get expanded into a sub-genre, I'd say the kind of lo-fi/dubplate/ragga feel like South Rakkas Crew (that's really my favorite sound) and the kind of straight up metal influenced dubstep like Deathface's "Fall Of Man" EP. It's not just hard, it's dissonant as fuck, and the grit comes from the percussion and the drums, as opposed to Brostep's bass orientation.

I'm not big on genre separation though. I could really do without seeing things like as TNT put it, "Countrywesternstep", or shit like "Video Game Step". But Drumstep is definitely separate from Dubstep, and SBTRKT does not sound like Skrillex (one of my friends didn't even register that he was a dubstep artist).

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