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Post by dubluke » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:37 am

badger wrote:
dubluke wrote:its not really that different from in the past though is it? every generation of young people has had their violent groups who caused similar panics amongst people and politicians, look at the rockers, the football firms of the 80's etc.

whilst it is still just as sad when people are stabbed its not anything that new at all, so i don't see the reason for increased paranoia, if you are scared off the streets by hoodlums then ultimately they have won in their bid to "rule the streets" or whatever
you're right in that violence amongs youths isn't a new thing but i think the increased use of knives and guns is a change from the past. where people might have been badly beaten or even hospitalised in fights among gangs in the past, chances are you'll end up dead these days

but as you say it's been over-hyped by the media, like so many things, so that people are taking a lot more notice. i think possibly in the past gang violence went largely unnoticed by the majority whereas these days virtually every stabbing or shooting ends up on the news
the media hype creates a bit of a vicious circle really, if it is true that everyone is carrying knives to protect themself from other people with knives, then the more you report high levels of knife use, the more likely people are to start carrying one "for protection"
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Post by dubluke » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:38 am

concept_ wrote:People have been getting stabbed/beaten/shot for a long time it is all media hype- IMO because Boris has pledged to stop youth violence and media are quick to show shortcomings.

The media are very selective in who they will report on though- only innocent people from a good upbringing like that Ben kid. Some gang kids as well but that is only recently because they are running out of options. 6 people were stabbed in my local pub in Bromley a month or so ago in 1 incident- there was blood on the walls etc. but hardly any press coverage because it was over drugs and the local thuggish albanians. Its like sally anne bowman received massive media attention (upcoming beautiful model), while the black girl from Brixton whose body was found cut up in South London same age around the same time and everything was hardly reported at all.

People need top be careful, but I don't really feel unsafe anywhere I go- felt worse in Croydon about 3 or 4 years ago tbh where there was weekly stabbings at places like Arena tram stop which never got reported.
bang on point there
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Post by Littlefoot » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:31 am

yoyoyo

wasn't saying "nar man shottz is griteh ya get meh" etc or something

just a bit :o when it's in the little alley way infront of your door!

kneejerk reaction was to make a thread as I know there are many Notts heads in here.

To be fair I have never had any trouble in Notts (though my girlfriend did the other day) and I actually work with young offenders 9-5.
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Post by pk » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:34 am

Joe C wrote:To be fair I have never had any trouble in Notts (though my girlfriend did the other day) and I actually work with young offenders 9-5.
those really are young offenders

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Post by dubluke » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:53 am

aye agreed it is scary when it happens right on your doorstep, like we had 2 in my college in the time i was there which was pretty scary
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Post by kins83 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:07 pm

pk wrote:
Joe C wrote:To be fair I have never had any trouble in Notts (though my girlfriend did the other day) and I actually work with young offenders 9-5.
those really are young offenders
Nicely done.
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Post by Littlefoot » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:27 pm

kins83 wrote:
pk wrote:
Joe C wrote:To be fair I have never had any trouble in Notts (though my girlfriend did the other day) and I actually work with young offenders 9-5.
those really are young offenders
Nicely done.
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Post by slothrop » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:59 pm

Live in Beeston for the nice food shops and the generally low level of shanking (although some of the old women can get vicious) and then go into Notts for clubs / gigs / culture. Simple as.

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Post by gwa » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:51 am

Slothrop wrote:Live in Beeston for the nice food shops and the generally low level of shanking (although some of the old women can get vicious) and then go into Notts for clubs / gigs / culture. Simple as.
Not beeston in leeds?
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