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Great points here. At the end of the day itz gotta be a good thing...

that's awesome that you think this, SKOOLZ. Big up to you and yours for your opinion.

Dekoy wrote:

pete bubonic wrote:Okay after having listened to a few myspaces and ting, I see what my mistake was. I'm thinking of stuff like dread jungle techno by ray kieth. When I listen to this j-tek stuff, I hear 92/93 hardcore rather than the jungle/dnb/techno/dark sounds of 95/96. Can't say I heard something that's grabbed me yet out of the j-tek stuff (although, isn't it (dark) hardcore breaks already?).

bare sub genres getme fam.

Easy Pete. Yeah basically is hardcore breaks, just the guys making it didn't know about hardcore breaks or wanted to start their own genre or summing like that and so it was. I quite often play Living in a Basement in dubstep sets. We had them down to the last Rusty Needle at Blue Mountain.

Personally I can't really see it "blowing dustep out of the water" but nice to have it there.

Nothin like hardcore breaks wally !!!

post a mix then

SKOOLZ wrote:Nothin like hardcore breaks wally !!!

Are you sure you understand what hardcore breaks is? J-tek and hardcore breaks are both at a tempo of around 140 - 150 bpm and are both heavily influenced by hardcore and jungle from between '91 and '94. Go to a site like http://www.nu-rave.com/ or http://www.hardcorelives.co.uk/ and you'll see that j-tek, hardcore breaks and rave breaks all get played together. There was even a joint article in Knowledge about it with interviews with Randall, Slipmatt and Malice & Enzyme. See http://www.nu-rave.com/images/kmag.nura ... 008-BB.jpg and http://www.nu-rave.com/images/kmag.nura ... 008-AA.jpg for the scan. Generally j-tek is more on a dark jungle tip and hardcore breaks is often more like '92 style stuff, but they cross over all the time and hardcore breaks is also taking a lot of influence from dubstep at the moment in terms of basslines.

93/94 I think.

Love oldskool jungle. Will deff be checking out some J-TEK!

Ory wrote: 91-92 more like.

Basically the early stuff on Basement Records and a couple of other labels. 4x4 kick drum with jungle/hardcore sonics.

Yup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7pgGuFiP9w

and( in @ 5:00):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jd2Lr7C0nc

pete bubonic wrote:

spencerTron wrote:

jred wrote:excuse my ignorance but whats j tek

i could be wrong but is he talking about japanese techno?

just checked some audio on here from this artist http://www.kenishii.com/

pretty good IMO

I think j-tek is Jungle Techno. That period just before drum and bass came about and jungle was getting darker and darker. I'm crap with dates but I guess that's about 96? I have a few compilations on cd of around that time. Good stuff, if it is what I think it is. Haven't heard this revival stuff though.

I dont have a clue if this is right, I think there's more of a jtek presence on DOA more and more...

Both actually... the genre itself is like a japanese techno, but it's also a subgenre of jungle as well. Really they are like the same thing, IIRC... I dunno though, I'm not usually inclined to classify things that deeply.

There's definitely a lot of rave influence starting to come into dubstep too, obviously there's that Zomby CD, and I hear a lot of 92 vibes in Whistla's new stuff. The future's bright.

If you are interested in the Jungle techno vibe and more recent progressive explorations check out the first 30mins of my recent show on 'Direct Drive' TV...

www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=68980

These are unreleased tracks from man like wAgAwAgA when he was listening to alot of Apex Twin. Well worth a listen.

Let me know what you think.