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Zefa wrote:

[b]racket wrote:Luke Vibert is also pretty nifty at Djing with Ableton...

yeah saw him a while back at Deadbeat and he was using computer and decks...dunno whether it was Ableton or not but he was pretty damn good!!

I got fond (if hazy) memories of Dedbeat. Messiest music event i have ever been to....

[b]racket wrote:

Zefa wrote:

[b]racket wrote:Luke Vibert is also pretty nifty at Djing with Ableton...

yeah saw him a while back at Deadbeat and he was using computer and decks...dunno whether it was Ableton or not but he was pretty damn good!!

I got fond (if hazy) memories of Dedbeat. Messiest music event i have ever been to....

Quite simply THE best festival ive ever been to, great atmos, great people and even better music...such a shame they don't do em any more...i know someone that helped organise the thing and they never made a penny at any of them, always a loss, but carried on anyway for as long as they could...

Insane parties...and as you say deffo very hazy

Zefa wrote:

[b]racket wrote:

Zefa wrote:

[b]racket wrote:Luke Vibert is also pretty nifty at Djing with Ableton...

yeah saw him a while back at Deadbeat and he was using computer and decks...dunno whether it was Ableton or not but he was pretty damn good!!

I got fond (if hazy) memories of Dedbeat. Messiest music event i have ever been to....

Quite simply THE best festival ive ever been to, great atmos, great people and even better music...such a shame they don't do em any more...i know someone that helped organise the thing and they never made a penny at any of them, always a loss, but carried on anyway for as long as they could...

Insane parties...and as you say deffo very hazy

Dedbeat was a great festival i went a couple of time and i think i saw the Luke Vibert set you mentioned, which was amazing... Dropping tunes in and out like no tomorrow...

Back to the subject tho... I've recently started working on a live / dj set with Ableton and i love it.. Don't think i'd choose it over Logic for my production but could see why some people would...

It seems really straight fwd to use too, its all about your prep.. getting all your loops / tracks cut up and tempo matched then it works a dream..

I've been trying to stick to wav's but will possibly give the Mp3's a go when i get time to convert my vinyls to Mp3... not looking fwd to that its gonna be long...

Might hit you up soon for some info on the controllers tho Elemental...

dedbeat 2002, pontins norfolk...

After playing baseball with plastic bowling pins in the kitsch-filled campsite shop, I watched about 400 punters dance like parkinsons to venetian snares and a guy in a skirt ahout randomly at the seething mass of drugged up tossers. But eventually it was time to turn off the PA. as the music faded, You could hear a dull "whump whump" coming from the corner of the room. Somebody had strapped a huge bass box to their back and were leading people, like the pied piper, back to a chalet party.

At the chalet party (which was coincidentally next door to my own) A very nice chap was passing around free wraps of special k for breakfast, while somebody played the most random shit on some beat up old decks. I stayed til late morning, watching the festival's dedicated tv channel. Somebody had gaffer taped a microphone to their head in a dirty-sanchez style competition to win a couple of white labels and cdrs, and the "presenter" was ripping it off resulting in delightful screams of pain from the poor muntered fool.

Absolutely the messiest festival I'd ever been to, and totally got me into the sound of planet mu.

thankyou dedbeat, please say thankyou so much to your friend, zefa.

andythetwig wrote:dedbeat 2002, pontins norfolk...

After playing baseball with plastic bowling pins in the kitsch-filled campsite shop, I watched about 400 punters dance like parkinsons to venetian snares and a guy in a skirt ahout randomly at the seething mass of drugged up tossers. But eventually it was time to turn off the PA. as the music faded, You could hear a dull "whump whump" coming from the corner of the room. Somebody had strapped a huge bass box to their back and were leading people, like the pied piper, back to a chalet party.

At the chalet party (which was coincidentally next door to my own) A very nice chap was passing around free wraps of special k for breakfast, while somebody played the most random shit on some beat up old decks. I stayed til late morning, watching the festival's dedicated tv channel. Somebody had gaffer taped a microphone to their head in a dirty-sanchez style competition to win a couple of white labels and cdrs, and the "presenter" was ripping it off resulting in delightful screams of pain from the poor muntered fool.

Absolutely the messiest festival I'd ever been to, and totally got me into the sound of planet mu.

thankyou dedbeat, please say thankyou so much to your friend, zefa.

No worries, she worked on the last two with the guys that put it on...

Ive never had such a good weekend...

Back on topic...don't know how good Logic would be for a newcomer to sequencing...gotta start somewhere i suppose...but i think for DJ'ing using a computer Traktor or Ableton have got to be the ones...Traktor possibly being the easiest to figure out straight off...

I use Abelton Live for all of my sets. I actually have an Echo Audio Indigo dj card for my laptop, so I have two outs. I set it up so that channels alternate between the two outs and I have them plugged into separate channels on the DJ mixer, that way I can actually use the crossfader and EQs on the real mixer, which is quite nice.

I take tracks ahead of time and analyze them so that they're properly warped, then I just take tracks that I think I'll want to play that night and dump them into one folder (kind of like a DJ pulling records) and I can just drop them in at any time and DJ them. It's pretty nice.



Some sets I've done with it:

http://www.atomly.com/music/atomly_-_gr ... 050905.mp3
a grime set from a few months ago

http://www.atomly.com/music/atomly_-_ha ... 040820.mp3
an acid techno set from about a year ago

http://www.atomly.com/music/atomly_-_li ... 040510.mp3
a live chill techno pa from about a year ago

http://www.atomly.com/music/atomly_-_li ... 030524.mp3
a breakcore live pa from two years ago

atomly wrote:I actually have an Echo Audio Indigo dj card for my laptop, so I have two outs. I set it up so that channels alternate between the two outs and I have them plugged into separate channels on the DJ mixer, that way I can actually use the crossfader and EQs on the real mixer, which is quite nice.

I have one of those too.

I thought one was a microphone socket only? can you get an unboosted line signal out of it?

andythetwig wrote:dedbeat 2002, pontins norfolk...

After playing baseball with plastic bowling pins in the kitsch-filled campsite shop, I watched about 400 punters dance like parkinsons to venetian snares and a guy in a skirt ahout randomly at the seething mass of drugged up tossers. But eventually it was time to turn off the PA. as the music faded, You could hear a dull "whump whump" coming from the corner of the room. Somebody had strapped a huge bass box to their back and were leading people, like the pied piper, back to a chalet party.

At the chalet party (which was coincidentally next door to my own) A very nice chap was passing around free wraps of special k for breakfast, while somebody played the most random shit on some beat up old decks. I stayed til late morning, watching the festival's dedicated tv channel. Somebody had gaffer taped a microphone to their head in a dirty-sanchez style competition to win a couple of white labels and cdrs, and the "presenter" was ripping it off resulting in delightful screams of pain from the poor muntered fool.

Absolutely the messiest festival I'd ever been to, and totally got me into the sound of planet mu.

thankyou dedbeat, please say thankyou so much to your friend, zefa.

Anyone go to the Rome Dedbeat??

I just been messing with Live for a bit. The warp function can do some pretty savage edits. Stick a bassnote (or wotever) in and add extra warp points to make wobbles, glitches and loops etc.

atomly wrote:I actually have an Echo Audio Indigo dj card for my laptop, so I have two outs. I set it up so that channels alternate between the two outs and I have them plugged into separate channels on the DJ mixer, that way I can actually use the crossfader and EQs on the real mixer, which is quite nice.

If you've just got a shitty onboard or any cheap card you can use http://www.asio4all.com/ These add an ASIO driver to your system and if your card has seperate front and rear (surround) outputs these can be used as seperate stereo outs to feed your mixer. Also gives you low ASIO latency n' shit. If that makes any sense ...

cool... echos are asio anyway though, the driver is wicked...

... yeah ASIO4ALL is just for your sub $50 jobs or for lappies with onboard, I love em cos any computer with newish sound can do proper mixing. Usefull for anyone without a specialised card like the echo

[b]racket wrote:

andythetwig wrote:dedbeat 2002, pontins norfolk...

After playing baseball with plastic bowling pins in the kitsch-filled campsite shop, I watched about 400 punters dance like parkinsons to venetian snares and a guy in a skirt ahout randomly at the seething mass of drugged up tossers. But eventually it was time to turn off the PA. as the music faded, You could hear a dull "whump whump" coming from the corner of the room. Somebody had strapped a huge bass box to their back and were leading people, like the pied piper, back to a chalet party.

At the chalet party (which was coincidentally next door to my own) A very nice chap was passing around free wraps of special k for breakfast, while somebody played the most random shit on some beat up old decks. I stayed til late morning, watching the festival's dedicated tv channel. Somebody had gaffer taped a microphone to their head in a dirty-sanchez style competition to win a couple of white labels and cdrs, and the "presenter" was ripping it off resulting in delightful screams of pain from the poor muntered fool.

Absolutely the messiest festival I'd ever been to, and totally got me into the sound of planet mu.

thankyou dedbeat, please say thankyou so much to your friend, zefa.

Anyone go to the Rome Dedbeat??

Wasnt that a complete disaster, with powercuts and rain etc?

It could be looked upon as a disaster but the powercut was due to storms knockin out a power station which plunged pretty much the whole of Italy into complete darkness. One of the more surreal moments in my life. Dedbeat crew hooked us up with cheap tickets and VIP accomdation at the last festival for our troubles....

Sorry for thread hijacking with my dedbeat banter

Yeah sort of a hijack...but Deadbeat were da bomb!!

elemental wrote:I caught a Surgeon set end of last year at some Warp night down Plastic People. Was very slick, the way he just plonked his powerbook and his little box of faders on top of the deck. It was more a of a DJ set than live p.a. but sounded like he was mixing in loops over tunes aswell, and cutting up loops etc.

Here's a rather fun recording of Surgeon doing a recent Ableton set for us down in Bristol.

http://spannered.org/mixes/surgeon/surg ... _oct05.mp3

Perhaps a bit techno-centric for some bods around these parts, but he drops a whole load of Vex'd edits into the mix to pretty rocking effect.

casino addict wrote:

elemental wrote:I caught a Surgeon set end of last year at some Warp night down Plastic People. Was very slick, the way he just plonked his powerbook and his little box of faders on top of the deck. It was more a of a DJ set than live p.a. but sounded like he was mixing in loops over tunes aswell, and cutting up loops etc.

Here's a rather fun recording of Surgeon doing a recent Ableton set for us down in Bristol.

http://spannered.org/mixes/surgeon/surg ... _oct05.mp3

Perhaps a bit techno-centric for some bods around these parts, but he drops a whole load of Vex'd edits into the mix to pretty rocking effect.

Tis a wicked set....

Hope your enjoying your new location

IÂ’m very interested in using this program as an additional tool to my exciting dj setup.
IÂ’m curiousÂ…
Can you tap or use another intuitive way to adjust the pitch of respective track?
IÂ’d like to hook live up the line ins to my mixer, and my turntables to the phono ins.
Ideally IÂ’d like to mix from a turntable channel to a LIVE channel at some point.
Is it easy enough to beat match a LIVE track to an externally played tempo like this?

casino addict wrote:

elemental wrote:I caught a Surgeon set end of last year at some Warp night down Plastic People. Was very slick, the way he just plonked his powerbook and his little box of faders on top of the deck. It was more a of a DJ set than live p.a. but sounded like he was mixing in loops over tunes aswell, and cutting up loops etc.

Here's a rather fun recording of Surgeon doing a recent Ableton set for us down in Bristol.

http://spannered.org/mixes/surgeon/surg ... _oct05.mp3

Perhaps a bit techno-centric for some bods around these parts, but he drops a whole load of Vex'd edits into the mix to pretty rocking effect.

on that note: http://www.atomly.com/blog/archives/200510121014/

andythetwig wrote:

atomly wrote:I actually have an Echo Audio Indigo dj card for my laptop, so I have two outs. I set it up so that channels alternate between the two outs and I have them plugged into separate channels on the DJ mixer, that way I can actually use the crossfader and EQs on the real mixer, which is quite nice.

I have one of those too.

I thought one was a microphone socket only? can you get an unboosted line signal out of it?

The Indigo dj has two outs and the Indigo io has one in and one out...

sek [espionage] wrote:IÂ’m very interested in using this program as an additional tool to my exciting dj setup.
IÂ’m curiousÂ…
Can you tap or use another intuitive way to adjust the pitch of respective track?
IÂ’d like to hook live up the line ins to my mixer, and my turntables to the phono ins.
Ideally IÂ’d like to mix from a turntable channel to a LIVE channel at some point.
Is it easy enough to beat match a LIVE track to an externally played tempo like this?

there's a tap button next to the tempo control, I'm sure it's possible...