How do we explain it to the unconverted?

lord_qzuma · Post by **lord_qzuma** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:44 pm

Joseph-J wrote:
Lord_Qzuma wrote:classical in the way its written, not all cramped and crazy.
You're mixing "classical" with "modern" perhaps mate.

that I might be, but in my head, when i think of dubstep, i think of classical. Not just from a production stand point but from a feelings perspective as well.

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:46 pm

ambient garage

jokes

just make em listen to it with a big fat sub then they'll know

joseph-j · Post by **joseph-j** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:57 pm

forensix (mcr) wrote:ambient garage

jokes

just make em listen to it with a big fat sub then they'll know

Innit.

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:05 pm

yeah i'd have said the best way to explain it to someone is to play them some of it

i usually say 'its a cross between dub and garage' though

t-mus · Post by **t-mus** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:36 am

Lord_Qzuma wrote:"its the classical music of our time".

dubstep and classical music are in no way comparable

t was kind of hard to switch the mental bpm's to compansate for the new bpm of 140-155.

a lot of my friends have the same problem.
they listen to it, and like the sounds, but think it's to slow. there already some popping and feeling the groove.
but when it's possible, let them feel the sub.

seckle wrote: agreed. i don't defend this music, because if you don't get it the first time around, then you'll never get it.

so this is [pick an animal] shit

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:41 am

T-mus wrote:
seckle wrote: agreed. i don't defend this music, because if you don't get it the first time around, then you'll never get it.
so this is [pick an animal] shit

tell me the benefits of defending dubstep, then.

if i stand up on a table and say "peanut butter is the best thing ever" is that going to make you eat loads of peanut butter? of course not...

you're going to find out for yourself, on your own terms, on your own time. if anything you'd think i was wierd. ramming people over the head with it in some rant about how it's the best thing ever, is not going to make people eat more peanut butter.

people either get it immediately, hate it immediately or don't understand it, and probably never will. i don't think that people grow into music anymore. in the days of itunes and ipods, people form their own taste range very quickly.

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:42 am

i got it the second time around, happened to be in a k hole but that's irrelevant

just play it for people, on proper speakers with enough sub bass and they won't be able to deny the fatness of it.. i've been converting people one by one that way.. not that it's a cult.. just converting them into people who like dubstep!

d.l.i · Post by **d.l.i** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:21 am

say its like a party in your mouth and everyones invited!

try explaining it to ppl in australia.
most peps here have just learnt bout DNB now that pendulum have made it big

jaggi · Post by **jaggi** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:48 am

boom bo clack, boom clack

t-mus · Post by **t-mus** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:23 am

seckle wrote:if i stand up on a table and say "peanut butter is the best thing ever" is that going to make you eat loads of peanut butter? of course not...

no, because you know the taste of peanut butter, you can even taste it just by thinking about it. bad example..

the thing is, and there are enough examples posted in here, i i've witnessed some more, that you CAN learn to appreciate it. for some people it takes time to get used to the slower tempo than they are used to listen. and some need to hear it at a big system, and then they are really sold. (every case of peeps who where doubting if they'd like it or not, and joined me on a rave, where saying they got the virus)

but if you deny all that, there's no point mentioning now is there?

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:26 am

no, because you know the taste of peanut butter, you can even taste it just by thinking about it.

i can hear dubstep in my head

which may be cause for concern, admittedly

i think seckle's point was not that you can't

learn to appreciate it.

but that you can't be taught to appreciate it

t-mus · Post by **t-mus** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:32 am

pk- wrote:but that you can't be taught to appreciate it

but you can, it's proven in research!
offcourse, there are people who will never like it, but some are hars and not very openminded (music wise). but when they get used to all the aspects of the music, and connect it with something good (like: you always turn it up when you are having some joints and a good laugh), they'll associate it with 'happy times' and they let the sound trough their 'music barrier' because they know what to expect. (expectable music is a must for some people)

joseph-j · Post by **joseph-j** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:34 am

pk- wrote:
no, because you know the taste of peanut butter, you can even taste it just by thinking about it.
i can hear dubstep in my head

which may be cause for concern, admittedly

i think seckle's point was not that you can't
learn to appreciate it.
but that you can't be taught to appreciate it

If people like it they like it, if they don't, their loss. I'm with seckle on this one. I've found that dubstep is very much a music you discover, I've never bothered trying to get other people into it.

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:47 am

Scream the bassline from ''Haunted'' into their ears for ten minutes.

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:58 am

im with seckle and joseph. Seems a bit excited and obnoxious to try and "covert" people. Nothing worse than knowitall fanboys who think their music tastes are better than everyone else. Leave your friends be i'm sure they'll resect you more for it

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:02 pm

im with seckle and joseph

and i'm with you, seckle and joseph

offcourse, there are people who will never like it, but some are hars and not very openminded (music wise). but when they get used to all the aspects of the music, and connect it with something good (like: you always turn it up when you are having some joints and a good laugh), they'll associate it with 'happy times' and they let the sound trough their 'music barrier' because they know what to expect. (expectable music is a must for some people)

while this may be true, no amount of forcing it upon people is going to 'convert' them. someone will either develop a taste for the music on their own or not at all.

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:05 pm

no one was talking about converting people just about explaining to people that dont know

8bitwonder · Post by **8bitwonder** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:06 pm

joe nice's physical experience is my fave!

he would have loved it

paeki · Post by **paeki** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:57 pm

Lord_Qzuma wrote:…I would also like to add that since i have been listening to dubstep, it has forever changed my life. Since i've been listening to dubstep in place of jungle at work, Ive gotten a promtion and have found that i can work much more efficently with my new mind frame of 140-155 bpms. …

blimey! P:

Abstract wrote:"Finally stoners have something to rave to!"

so tru, dunno if I'd call it ravin' tho.

misskatiemo · Post by **misskatiemo** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:51 pm

whenever people ask me "so, uh, what IS dubstep exactly?" - I usually just say "it's a bit of a cross between grime, garage, hip hop and dnb - it's got flavors of all of those in it and varies widely" - then offer up a few mixes to back my statement up. (OR - just direct them to barefiles, which usually works).

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