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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:14 pm
by rjv
i know, but i don't care :D

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:23 pm
by dub boy
rjv wrote:i know, but i don't care :D
lol, that's the spirit!

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:30 pm
by alex bk-bk
the thing is if youre gonna do half step you have to do it very well. seems like all the newcommer producers are jumping on that as well, but without the necessary scope and sensitivity to really pull it off. halfstep for an hour straight in a rave makes me feel like LEAVING

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:33 pm
by shonky
Think there were some pretty good breakstep tracks - some of the Dub Child and Toasty Boy stuff's pretty hot and of course that Mrk 1 and Darqwan tune from a while ago. To be honest a lot of that Texture stuff's pretty amazing too - sick bass and mad riddims - something to be encouraged I think.

And of course Lion by Vex'd - heavy as you like

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:34 pm
by diablo
ThinKing wrote:
Spaceboy wrote:
Dub boy wrote:
Spaceboy wrote:its frightfully boring...last major rave i went to...every set sounded the same...
:!:

The musics still dead varied, alot of promoters don't promote the variety though :?
it used to be alot more varied.

market forces at work...


I dunno about market forces to be honest, I think it's possibly more to do with imitation/trends.

There's that thread "what can dubstep learn from DnB?" - my only comment was that taking too much reference from the scene itself can lead to stagnation somewhat, and I feel that's perhaps partly my issue here. Producers are seeing peeps like Loefah (who really CAN work the halfstep format) succeed, and trying to emulate that sound perhaps, with variable results. I guess the meteoric rise of Yunx has also pushed the halfstep sound quite hard

don't get me wrong here, like I say I hope I'm not sounding negative, just that I'd like to hear other people's thoughts on the matter.

Heres my thought on the matter:
http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t ... t=halfstep

Seems to have been talked to death :wink:

BLAH, BLAH, & BLAH!!!!

Maybe this one can go 20 pages :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:37 pm
by shonky
Alex bk-bk wrote:the thing is if youre gonna do half step you have to do it very well. seems like all the newcommer producers are jumping on that as well, but without the necessary scope and sensitivity to really pull it off. halfstep for an hour straight in a rave makes me feel like LEAVING
Agree with you on that one, might as well get the fuckin sofas out or give you bus fare at least

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:51 pm
by thinking
Diablo wrote:Heres my thought on the matter:
http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t ... t=halfstep

Seems to have been talked to death :wink:

BLAH, BLAH, & BLAH!!!!

Maybe this one can go 20 pages :lol: :lol:

Shit man my bad, I honestly didn't recall that thread - I'll probably see I posted in in now lol. Ignore me then, nothing to see here etc...

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:56 pm
by shonky
ThinKing wrote:
Diablo wrote:Heres my thought on the matter:
http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t ... t=halfstep

Seems to have been talked to death :wink:

BLAH, BLAH, & BLAH!!!!

Maybe this one can go 20 pages :lol: :lol:

Shit man my bad, I honestly didn't recall that thread - I'll probably see I posted in in now lol. Ignore me then, nothing to see here etc...
Don't get out of it that easily. What would Dubstep Forum be without the constant rehashing of old debates? :wink:

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:03 pm
by ufo over easy
I love halfstep. So there :P

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:20 pm
by rubin
i love the half step. youngsta basically defined what i like about the sound so i guess that's where it's come from.

prefer menacing rhythms to bouncy rave tunes - which is what a lot of two step sounds like to me apart from some of the burial shit... although i may get a serious flaming for saying it. :D

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:20 pm
by jay
Where's the 2step and the steppas?


here mate:


www.myspace.com/darkstar001

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:30 pm
by gravious
Yeah, rythmic diversity is important for sure!

Half step is cool, but its nice to mix it up.

One of my top releases at the mo is Splash, and its a good example of this.

Not exactly a new tune though...

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:32 pm
by parson atx
if its too slow you're not high enough ;)

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:52 pm
by skunk
AMEN BRUDDA!

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:37 pm
by shonky
Parson ATX wrote:if its too slow you're not high enough ;)
It's odd how people bitch on about dnb being mindless drug music but can't see the same thing happening with dubstep. If you have to be that off your tits to get into it - it's really not that good.

Too many tedious stoner conversations, too much tedious stoner music.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:42 pm
by Jubz
Innit shonky, one thing about this music for me is I dont need to be intoxicated to skank like a prick to it or enjoy it.

Really feelin Dunhill Riddem Jay.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:19 pm
by ufo over easy
Shonky wrote: tedious stoner conversations, tedious stoner music.
:R:

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:19 pm
by parson atx
Shonky wrote:
Parson ATX wrote:if its too slow you're not high enough ;)
It's odd how people bitch on about dnb being mindless drug music but can't see the same thing happening with dubstep. If you have to be that off your tits to get into it - it's really not that good.

Too many tedious stoner conversations, too much tedious stoner music.
well i was half joking (;)) but your contention assumes stoner=tedium

it really is music for stoners. i mean look at dub.

it all sounds cool enough when you're not high, but some things just work so much better when yr blazed.

it sucks to admit, but i bet 99% of us are stoners.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:38 pm
by shonky
Nah, had my moments myself, I just think a lot of music made by people that are too stoned doesn't have to do that much to keep the interest. Reason I know this - cutting down on the weed due to too much over the years and listening to loads of music that doesn't really do it for me without blazing up.

Nowadays I generally listen to most music sober, so I prefer to find music that's psychoactively stimulating rather than having to take something psychoactive to find music stimulating

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:40 pm
by parson atx
I feel ya

ideally it would work both ways